I folded this hand on the flop but I think it is a really interesting hand to discuss for developing hand reading skills. What ranges would you put the two villains on here?

flush draw, kx, jx. I dont' know if I did this right but this is what I think he might have. let me know if I did this right.

I understand what you're doin here but why are we calling with 86o? What type of range do you think her would have here to justify calling with 86o

+1 calling UTG raises with small offsuit one gappers is just burning chips.

Meh, effective stacks are deep and I have position on the raiser with a disguised hand that's easy to play postflop. Calling 150 is a very small investment to try to flop big and have position (until the call came behind). But that's not the point, I want to focus on the villans' ranges.

I assume you're talking about BTN? What about the other guy?

qx, kx, j10o, AXs of spades. 2spades of high cards like jx, q9 maybe? what do you think of the range I gave him?

ok well if the villians use your logic then their ranges are waaayyy wide

I guess when you say "easy to play postflop" you mean to continue on flops with 2p or better ? It will happen 2% of the time. (+ ~2-3% from flopping fd, trips, ful houses and quads) This is way worse then set mining (11%) so I guess the implied odds are not enough for calling this preflop.

I'm not calling just to try to hit a big hand, I'm also calling because I have position on the raiser and may be able to take the pot away postflop.

I think that's probably way too wide. Here's what I'm thinking, working through each street:

Preflop
UTG+1: With no read on his tendencies, we have to assume a 3x raise from that position is going to be a fairly narrow range. Maybe 88-AA, ATs+, AJ+, KJs+, KQ.

BTN: Flat-calling a raise and call in front, with position on both, likely a pretty wide range. Would probably squeeze KK, AA, AK, but certainly any other pair, broadways, suited and unsuited Aces, suited Kings, and lots of connectors and one-gappers.

Flop
UTG+1: Half-pot CB into 2 villains out of position on a flop that nails his raising range - we could probably knock out 88, 99, but the rest of that original range is in play. He opts to flat call rather than 3-bet BTN's minraise, which suggests he doesn't have a big made hand. If he did, he would likely try to extract value (with a monster) and/or protect against all the draws. That leads be to believe he either has a very vulnerable made hand and isn't comfortable committing yet (like 99, JJ, AT with no spades), or he has a marginal draw (a big draw or combo draw would likely 3-bet/shove the flop). However, that would mean his range might be wider than I originally thought because there aren't many marginal draws in his original range.

BTN: This is where things get interesting. If he has any awareness whatsoever, he must know that the flop is right in the wheelhouse of UTG+1's range and he opts to minraise in position. I interpret that in one of two ways: either a monster trying to extract value (set, 2P, flopped straight) or a draw hoping to get a free card by discouraging UTG+1 from firing a second bullet on the turn.

Turn
UTG+1: Checks when the turn pairs the board and then folds to BTN's overshove, so I think my flop assessment of a vulnerable made hand is probably correct. Something like 99, JJ, AT with no spades. Also possible that my original range was too tight and he could be on a smaller underpair or some mediocre Ace.

BTN: UTG+1 checks the paired turn and he overshoves for almost twice the pot. Clearly not a value bet with a monster, so we can eliminate the flopped set or 2P from his range. People often overshove the flop with a draw so they can see both the turn and river, but that kind of move with a draw is less common on the turn when there is only one more card to come. And if he is on a draw he could have checked behind for the free card. So the overshove suggests a vulnerable hand and he wants to charge UTG+1 the max to chase his card, or a vulnerable hand with a draw. I don't think he'd make that bet without a Queen himself since there are so many Queens in UTG+1's range, and the turn check could easily be a trap with a big hand. So I'm guessing BTN has something like AQ or QJ, maybe even Q9.

If he had AQ he would probably 3bet the raiser pre flop. More likely he had QJs or K10.

Not necessarily, this is early in a $2.70 so I wouldn't expect a player to squeeze with AQ there.

I know you said you aren't trying to talk about your call here, but you are wayyy behind UTG's range here 100% of the time. I know it's early and you want to see a lot of flops in position with all your playable hands but you have to be mindful of the ranges you are wanting to discuss. Personally, I'm fine with you opening this pot. Never ok with you calling. Let's say you do connect with this flop on a 8 5 4 board and the villian x/r's you.
Now you're in a tough spot after putting more chips into the pot. Then the turn is a K and he leads out, you have to fold. Stop calling all of your playable hands even though it's cheap and you're in position. Think about later streets.

As far as the ranges, UTG has AK or like 99 Imo...I think the button has the nut flush draw with a weak ace, or maybe a Qx hand i guess. raising AQ there isn't squeezing btw, it's just a 3 bet, and most players are 3 betting there most of the time. i can't see shoving any queen here...maybe he got overzealous with q10 and lost value, maybe he wanted it to look like a bluff, but with no other info on the opponents AK, 99 or worse and Ax suited are my guesses.

Okay, okay, the preflop call wasn't great.

A 3-bet from BTN would be a squeeze - there was a raise and flat-call in front of him.

I suppose a nut flush draw with a weak Ace is a possibility for BTN. If so, what do you think of his turn shove? Pretty stupid shoving into the raiser's range on that board, especially since a smaller bet would accomplish the same goal.

I think of a squeeze as a raise with a marginal hand solely to try to take down the pot preflop against loose, light raisers. Maybe I'm wrong.

But yea it's absolutely stupid to shove the turn. I think BTN is a bad player. No matter what you have here, shoving the turn is pretty insane. If he had the nuts, shoving the turn is insane. Maybe he had a read on UTG that he's too tight and is gii with his missed draw on a scary turn card..idk.
Seems like a laggy maniac to me.