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12-12-2008 , 01:10 PM
Much has been made of Annette's 4/180 win without looking at hole cards.

I propose a challenge where we all contestants agree to play the tourneys blind in a challenge with the same format as the regular 4/180 challenge.

Rules:
1. You must have a post-it or similar opaque material covering your hole cards in each tournament from beginning to end.

2. Winners must post complete hand history in the 2+2 replayer.

Who would be down? We could do it this weekend or a weeknight next week.
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12-12-2008 , 03:40 PM
I think this would be pretty interesting and would more than likely be in.
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12-12-2008 , 03:51 PM
I'm in Turbo or regular? Would prefer turbo Stars but, whatever.

Stupid un-thoughtout question: would I be able to use a HUD like Tournament Indicator for M calcs and opponent stats? OBV I'd block off the fields that show hand strength and outs and the like.

Sounds like you want us all to be in the same tournemant? I'm not sure that accomplishes anything if you're trying to level the field. I have kids and dinner/play/bed time is 6-9pm CST which is off limits. I could do it during the day or later at night.
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12-12-2008 , 03:53 PM
non turbo...I don't think he means same tourney...

but...imagine 180 2+2ers with stickys over their whole cards all trying to outpay and outlevel each other
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12-12-2008 , 03:53 PM
This is a very sad attempt to gain a little ev.
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12-12-2008 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BadgerPro
This is a very sad attempt to gain a little ev.
that is a sad attempt to ruin some innocent fun
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12-12-2008 , 04:05 PM
im down for this
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12-12-2008 , 04:07 PM
lol, like im even looking at my cards half the time anyways.
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12-12-2008 , 04:30 PM
HUD's are perfectly fine to the extent it shows opponents play. The challenge is not how your opponents play, but how you play without access to your hole cards. Any HUD information on your hand strength etc. would be prohibido.

The challenge would involve 4 consecutive 4/180's, exactly like the regular weekly 4/180 challenge.

Who can do Sunday night?

Last edited by brad2002tj; 12-12-2008 at 04:41 PM.
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12-12-2008 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by brad2002tj
Who can do Sunday night?
I'm good but will bow out if going deep in some of the large field events I'm starting that afternoon.
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12-12-2008 , 06:33 PM
so how do we "prove" we didnt look at the cards? Just random **** folded/raised?
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12-12-2008 , 06:33 PM
also, this probably wont work bc 4/180s are full of calling stations
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12-12-2008 , 06:38 PM
is this going to run on the honour system or are we going to have some sort of way to verify people have cards covered?
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12-12-2008 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Draxalyon
is this going to run on the honour system or are we going to have some sort of way to verify people have cards covered?
Have to post HH. I think it would be obvious just by looking at HH
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12-12-2008 , 07:11 PM
i would love to do this but cant in the next couple days. fwiw i have tried this a few times with 4/180s and it is very very hard i didnt get ITM in my 5 or so attempts. and ya, posting hand history has to be a requirement and will make it VERY obvious if the person looked at his cards or not.
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12-12-2008 , 07:47 PM
Honor system yes, subject to verification of the hand history.

Tentatively sheduled for 9PM eastern on Sunday 12/14/08.
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12-12-2008 , 07:50 PM
could we make it sunday afternoon, cos thats 2am in euroland
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12-12-2008 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dcviperboy
also, this probably wont work bc 4/180s are full of calling stations
This is so obv I can't believe I overlooked it.
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12-12-2008 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ledders07
could we make it sunday afternoon, cos thats 2am in euroland
Problem with Sunday afternoon is I don't think we'll get much attendance with everyone playing the majors.

What if we did something like 6PM Eastern?
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12-12-2008 , 07:58 PM
yeah sounds good, tbh i doubt any of us will get near the money so it wont be too late a night
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12-12-2008 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonInDallas
This is so obv I can't believe I overlooked it.
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Originally Posted by ledders07
yeah sounds good, tbh i doubt any of us will get near the money so it wont be too late a night

Anette won one in her second try. So even if we are only half as good as Annette and have 10 players playing 4 donkaments, mathematically we should win all 4.
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12-12-2008 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by brad2002tj
Anette won one in her second try. So even if we are only half as good as Annette and have 10 players playing 4 donkaments, mathematically we should win all 4.
I lol'd. Statistics can say anything you want :-)
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12-12-2008 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DrawinBlanks
I lol'd. Statistics can say anything you want :-)
I submit that Blanks is one of Annette's mutli's...he wins too much for a non-Annette
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12-12-2008 , 09:05 PM
I'm not in but will play the 4 4.40s you designate.
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12-12-2008 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MJBuddy
I'm not in but will play the 4 4.40s you designate.
lol qft

I'd play this if it started before midnight GMT
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