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08-18-2010 , 12:00 AM

fernythrills

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Villain is a fish according to Sharkscope. He is single-tabling.

He has been pretty aggressive at the FT. This is the 2nd time he has shoved on me bvb.

The rest of the table are all bad players.

What's your calling range here and why?

Poker Stars $2.00+$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2000/t4000 Blinds + t400 - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: t36829 M = 4.60
SB: t71794 M = 8.97
Hero (BB): t85190 M = 10.65
UTG: t37334 M = 4.67
CO: t38853 M = 4.86

Pre Flop: (t8000) Hero is BB with X X
3 folds, SB raises to t71394 all in, Hero calls t67394

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08-18-2010 , 12:01 AM

slayerv1fan

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like 1010+, ak i think

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08-18-2010 , 12:59 AM

htoepidemix

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i am around 99+ AQo+
i feel like we should have a very significant edge against bad opponents with these stack sizes, my shoving range to our left will be fairly wide, perfect table setup imo

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08-18-2010 , 03:59 AM

TeamTrousers

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Happy to fold all but the biggest hands, then resume pwning the three 35k-ish stacks.

TT+/AK sounds good to me too.

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08-18-2010 , 04:17 AM

fernythrills

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Also, how much does everyone's calling range change if SB is a good reg instead of a fish?

I think this fish was pushing pretty wide (similar to what a reg would be), but with a reg there would be a certain metagame value to calling wider I think.

This value would present itself during similar spots in future games where the reg would be forced to tighten their shoving ranges against us.

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08-18-2010 , 05:13 AM

furo

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meh, doubt i fold AQ (cause **** him)
so 99+ AQ+

no edge over the table if the guy keeps shoving 20BB in future hands

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08-18-2010 , 05:27 AM

jasnlcas

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i think its a big mistake to assume he's shoving wide. even if this is the second time. he has no reason to be shoving wide here IMO theres much better places to be staking off.

i ran the hand in SNGWiz it says JJ+ if hes shoving "loose" which is a5s+, A9o+, all pairs, KQ, KJs+.

I'd call with AK but I'd really hesitate to call a shove htis big with TT when we are in a very good position to continue stealing.

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08-18-2010 , 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fernythrills

If it is a reg I might call with 99 and AQ. I dont change it that much though because of the stack sizes, you can simply continue abusing

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08-18-2010 , 08:03 PM

rmfan31

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yeah pretty much what everyone is saying.. obv u can and have to be pretty nitty here but u have good table position relative to everyones stack sizes

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08-18-2010 , 08:44 PM

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doesn't change my calling range much whether reg or fish. Folding to concede 1BB here doesn't really affect the functional utility of my stack, but losing to the 2nd stack cripples me.

And there's no point in metagaming a reg in a 180 imo

even against regs how often are you both getting to the same FT in a 180?

not like STTs where you play the same regs all the time, or high stakes MTT, where the player pool is small

nor are we HU either, or even three handed. 5 handed and an imposing stack of 20BB still offers plenty of scope to pwn the donks who are still at the table

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