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18ppl sng, last 6, overcalling range with 5bb 18ppl sng, last 6, overcalling range with 5bb

01-10-2014 , 09:47 AM
I always have the impression that ICM calculations with short stacks can be very inaccurate.
For example this hand: http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#NBiJ
In that hand I had 66 and ended up calling because if I fold I end up with 4bb with which I can't do much ( I gain 1bb in chipEV) . Yet, ICMIZER evaluates the decision with -2.8% which is completely unacceptable if real. Even calling with AKo, AQs, 99 would be a big mistake according to this evaluation.

What would your calling range be in this spot?
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01-10-2014 , 10:56 AM
It sucks, but you have to tighten up. Sb must call tight (~8%), so you mus be even more tight, even keeping a 4 bb stack. Prob i would call here TT+, AK, and i canīt nit fold AQs, even if it's -ev icm wise.
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01-10-2014 , 04:46 PM
If your shoving ranges are correct, Id call with TT+, AKs.

No reason to go vs ICM here. ChipEV =/= $EV. You gain 1 BB on average, but bust 60+% vs you cash (as the shortest stack) 40% of the time. And the other 60% you still have a stack with FE to play with.
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01-10-2014 , 10:05 PM
no i think what you have in accurate is how poorly 6s play against a shove and then a caller who is on aq its not even a icmdiscussion its basic poker 6s suck 3ways
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01-10-2014 , 11:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronny Mahoni

You gain 1 BB on average, but bust 60+% vs you cash (as the shortest stack) 40% of the time.
How did you come up with 40% itm ?
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