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10-03-2013 , 12:30 PM

Sokz

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,331

Poker Stars, $6.45 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19789381

Hero (SB): 4,105 (6.8 bb)
BB: 1,195 (2 bb)
MP: 8,170 (13.6 bb)
CO: 5,465 (9.1 bb)
BTN: 8,065 (13.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

2 folds, BTN raises to 1,200, Hero calls 900, BB folds

Flop: (3,250) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 6,815 and is all-in, Hero folds

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I dont like how i played this hand. Both villains are fishy and dont know their tendencies. Expected BB to participate in this hand close to a hundo % of the time but he didnt.

Ran some numbers and it kinda surprised me that when BB folds more often (calls 65% instead of 100), my range widenes (as for rejams and/or calls in the case as bu openshoved). My gut would say that it would benifit me if i could get it in 3-way itt HU vs button.

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10-03-2013 , 01:28 PM

Regret$

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Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 12,124

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Originally Posted by Sokz

Ran some numbers and it kinda surprised me that when BB folds more often (calls 65% instead of 100), my range widenes (as for rejams and/or calls in the case as bu openshoved). My gut would say that it would benifit me if i could get it in 3-way itt HU vs button.

I don't think this is true from running some numbers real quick. Maybe you need to change overcall numbers.

I think 99 is pretty close to a +EV 3bet preflop (I used pretty tight open range and >75% r/c), call has to better than 3bet... soooo nice hand imo

Last edited by Regret$; 10-03-2013 at 01:33 PM.

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10-03-2013 , 01:37 PM

Sokz

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Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,331

I now see what i did wrong and ur right, so ignore that part.

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10-03-2013 , 02:31 PM

Viral25

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Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,857

How is a call better than a 3bet? After we call, BB will/should fold almost any two, and now were out of position with a potsized bet left, likely (an) overcard(s) and a big ICM-penalty if we bust.

Meanwhile, if we fold, BB is probably calling 60-80% hands, having a good chance to bust.

The quick numbers I did say it's a marginal shove, but in game i'm probably folding (Reads and stats dependent obv).

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10-03-2013 , 02:42 PM

Regret$

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Viral, why should I explain something that is obvious by my opinion?

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10-03-2013 , 03:25 PM

chrismoll

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 27

A shove for me. Button is probably raising quite wide and will probably be folding most hands to a shove apart from AK JJ+

If it was bubble and the short stack was still in with 2bb I would fold but you need to get some chips in for the bubble especially and a good spot in my opinion - taking a nice pot down most the time

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10-03-2013 , 04:22 PM

dogzpp

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Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,023

this ICM is HEAVY

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10-03-2013 , 04:23 PM

Viral25

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Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 1,857

Because it's not obvious to me, obviously. I thought my earlier post kind of made that clear

. Feel free to enlighten me.

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