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10-10-2014 , 08:36 PM

SSKS

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,467

Hero is chipleading by a few big blinds. Probably 18bb or something

top 2 gets spot to a tourney which is $1850 value or something and third get $850

Villain 3bet hero once OTB 2.1x when i opened on the CO 5 handed and folded to a 4bet.

I open AQ on the cut off. Villain shoves for like 15bb. Big blind has like 12big blind

shortest stack on the table has around 10-12bb so stacks are very very close.

What is my calling range here? I am left with 2-3bb if i lose the all in but I am gauranteed a seat if i win this.

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10-10-2014 , 08:37 PM

SSKS

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Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,467

sorry, villain shoves on the button with SB having 12bb and BB having 10BB.

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10-10-2014 , 09:27 PM

KevinGChapman

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Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 673

When you say you 'opened' does that mean limped? I assume BB folded? Doesn't make much difference. I'm never calling here. Even though you are not representing a big hand if you limped in, or even put out a min. raise from CO, villain is seldom risking his tournament life here without a hand that has us dominated or at best that we're flipping with. Keep the chip lead and wait for better spot.

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10-11-2014 , 05:36 AM

kurt23x

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 400

This should always be a shove pre flop, not an open. If we are raise/folding AQ, then we may as well be opening 72o here. By shoving, we not only avoid losing the pot by possibly raise/folding the best hand, but we could also potentially make our opponents fold stronger hands than the one we are holding with the current ICM considerations. As played, I would probably fold anything but QQ+, possibly JJ as well. You really put yourself in a tough spot by just opening. You allow your opponents an opportunity to put you in a tough ICM spot. Just make things easier on yourself and shove pre.

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10-11-2014 , 03:08 PM

SSKS

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Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,467

thanks kurt, ya i raised pre to 2.2x and i some what snap called.... he showed 88 and i was left with 2bb after the flip for the seat..... then AQ loses to KK pre 3 hands later :/

should of shoved pre... ugh... misplayed

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10-11-2014 , 03:09 PM

SSKS

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,467

ya open as in i raised preflop. I am really not sure how to play satties properly with ICM and these shallow 10-15bb stacks in late stages :/

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10-11-2014 , 08:53 PM

betgo

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,590

Open shove. Probably r/f as played. Raising is not turning it into 72o here though, as you probably get flat called some live.

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10-13-2014 , 08:43 AM

Alexo

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Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,245

yeah definitely openshoving, start acting like philhelmuth if he calls

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11-06-2014 , 07:44 PM

Bentley

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Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 600

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Originally Posted by SSKS

Terrible. Learn to play poker.

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11-06-2014 , 08:11 PM

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AKupaA

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 488

Easy shove, raise/fold is terrible. I'd raise/call KK+ here and not very happy calling with KK

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11-07-2014 , 02:20 AM

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oldsilver

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,953

i'm very happy calling with KK
having a r/f range with 10BB effective is hilarious
but fgs shove pre. you has 10BB effective late in a sat. unless you're playing some oldsilveresque r/f strat opening 40-50% on a ridiculously tight FT where people 3bj JJ+AK and fold eeeeverything else...just shove.

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11-11-2014 , 05:26 PM

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Everyday81

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Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 144

Just another +1 for shoving. Easy to but don't over think it...

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