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12-01-2008 , 05:12 AM
What is the best way to try and get a triple up here? Should we just push and hope both call or is flatting ok here?? I was hoping MP1 would get it all in Preflop with AK or KK (silly min raise) then get the 3rd call from BB. As the preflop action turned out, was checking the way to go here hoping for a donk push??

Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: t1500
CO: t1470
BTN: t1360
SB: t1160
BB: t1500
Hero (UTG): t1500
UTG+1: t2110
UTG+2: t1500
MP1: t1400

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is UTG with A A
Hero raises to t60, 2 folds, MP1 raises to t100, 4 folds, BB raises to t560, Hero calls t500, MP1 calls t460

Flop: (t1690) 4 A 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks

Turn: (t1690) 5 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t940 all in, MP1 calls t840 all in, BB folds

River: (t3370) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)
s AA, too best way to eek out a Triple Up? Quote
12-01-2008 , 05:14 AM
Id prob play it the same way, although be prepared to lose 30%ish of the time.
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12-01-2008 , 05:22 AM
I shove on flop, pot is big enough.
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12-01-2008 , 05:23 AM
I'd bet this flop. Original 3better checked, I wouldn't pray&hope that MP1 bet and I'd take the lead myself. You could shove pf too, BB is always calling (normally), and I understand it can seems tasty to triple up but AA looses power in 3-handed
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12-01-2008 , 06:02 AM
id just shove preflop and wouldnt even think twice. i kind of would not actually be totally excited to get to the flop vs 2 guys here when i have less than 2/3 pot left.
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12-01-2008 , 06:12 AM
I'd bet ~250 on the flop and hope they do something stupid.
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12-01-2008 , 06:20 AM
I would shove the 2nd time around, BB is going nowhere.
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12-01-2008 , 06:36 AM
99% of the time i just get it in pre flop. The other 1% i get fancy, call, and lose to KQ on a KQ4 flop!!!
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12-01-2008 , 06:41 AM
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id just shove preflop and wouldnt even think twice
this.

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99% of the time i just get it in pre flop. The other 1% i get fancy, call, and lose to KQ on a KQ4 flop!!!
bad read,it usually is KT
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12-01-2008 , 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by clownklauen
this.



bad read,it usually is KT
Oh yeah, it is KT. but dont forget about the T on the turn!
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12-02-2008 , 08:23 AM
Just shove pre
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12-02-2008 , 08:29 AM
Like other said i just shove pre, i'm not greedy and don't expect to get it in 3ways often enough, maybe at the 16s you can get away with just calling but im happy enough shoving pre since BB isn't folding and i'd rather get him allin preflop than flop where we don't even know MP1 will come along and then get some lame flop which scares him away.

As played checking flop seems standard
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12-02-2008 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sippin_criss
id just shove preflop and wouldnt even think twice. i kind of would not actually be totally excited to get to the flop vs 2 guys here when i have less than 2/3 pot left.
This exactly.
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12-02-2008 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedEcho

As played checking flop seems standard
Why aren't we just betting and building a pot with our nut trips here (and eventually protecting/valuing from space draws or so)? Especially in a 3-handed
Is donk betting this flop in 3 players too powerfull and will make them fold too much?

(I'm not saying it's bad or what it's just to understand your thinking here)

Last edited by Nicktheone; 12-02-2008 at 12:40 PM.
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12-02-2008 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sippin_criss
id just shove preflop and wouldnt even think twice. i kind of would not actually be totally excited to get to the flop vs 2 guys here when i have less than 2/3 pot left.

exacly #4
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12-02-2008 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicktheone
Why aren't we just betting and building a pot with our nut trips here (and eventually protecting/valuing from space draws or so)? Especially in a 3-handed
Is donk betting this flop in 3 players too powerfull and will make them fold too much?

(I'm not saying it's bad or what it's just to understand your thinking here)
because they should be drawing dead or have runner runner outs. Pot is like 1600 and we have a touch under 1k left, its almost impossible to bet anything without looking strong, and when we bet any hand that gives us action would have gotten allin anyway. By checking we let them maybe pickup a draw on the turn (heart turn and give QQ/KK a flushdraw), they might bluff, or they might hero it up with TT-KK since everyone checked flop.

If they have somehow have a gutshot on the flop or a flushdraw and get there its fine since gutshots mean they made a huge mistake preflop, and flushdraws we are getting allin with if we bet so thats fine. So basically all the hands we get it in vs when we bet we can discount from his range since regardless of how we play the money goes in, and now it becomes how to extract from lower pairs or some random badly played air hand like KQ. Betting doesn't seem the best line for this.

You could just bet 200 i guess since anyone with TT-KK will have a hard time calling, but i would just check and bet small on turn and shove river generally, and if they bet a blank turn i would just call, and if they bet a heart turn i would probably shove
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12-02-2008 , 01:00 PM
Okey thanks for taking the time of explaining your thought, I appreciate that
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12-02-2008 , 02:12 PM
shove preflop but since u wanted to milk it and call, shove flop. they probably would call with such a huge pot and a large part of their stack already in
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12-02-2008 , 04:42 PM
shove preflop, you WILL get called by at least one of them, if not both.
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12-02-2008 , 11:07 PM
deff shove pre here guys who min rr are normally crazy donkish and might call you off w/ like 77 just for ****s and giggles and the rr is obviously pretty strong imo
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12-02-2008 , 11:18 PM
I understand the thought process in flatting to have MP1 push with fives or kings or whatever he has, but if he was going to make a move like that he would probably call your all in shove anyways. Not a mistake to shove and not a mistake to try and induce the shove for a potential triple up.
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12-02-2008 , 11:23 PM
I'm shoving preflop everytime.

I would think that if MP1 is going to call t460 then he will 95% of the time call the rest, but I may be mistaken.
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