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11-16-2007 , 06:23 PM

sippin_criss

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,773

PF I don't always do but I don't see any problems with it. Shoving on the flop seems like overkill without any history, and folding to a min raise seems kind of wimpy, but maybe best since he will likely fire most turns. Thoughts?

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UTG (t1285)
UTG+1 (t3155)
CO (t1765)
Button (t1390)
Hero (t2840)
BB (t3065)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with T

UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero calls t100, BB checks

Flop: (t400) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets t250, BB raises to t500, Hero calls t250

Turn: (t1400) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t400, Hero raises to t2140 (All-in)

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11-16-2007 , 06:29 PM

blowbubbles

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 284

I like the flop betting. Do you want the turn push to look like a bluff, or to get paid by a K?Qs type of hand?

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11-16-2007 , 06:30 PM

vers

See my staking thread

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,831

I think it's fine. I'm not instamucking 2nd pair to a min raise bvb. Completing is okayish if we're against a weak opponent and we think we can take down the pot w/ 1 bet.

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11-16-2007 , 06:34 PM

sippin_criss

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,773

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I like the flop betting. Do you want the turn push to look like a bluff, or to get paid by a K?Qs type of hand?

It's just a "I have 2 pair I'm all in" push.

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11-16-2007 , 06:44 PM

Takeover_inc

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 618

I like the hand.

Shoving the turn looks the weakest IMO. So we might as well make the villain pay the highest price for the times he talks himself into calling.

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11-16-2007 , 06:46 PM

Kevin8423

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,984

Preflop I fold but whatever. As for the flop I think you definitley need to fold to his minraise. While it might not indicate a very strong hand (it likely does) it usually shows that they want to play a big pot here and will continue firing on each street. Unless you hit the turn here you will have to fold so you might as well just conserve your chips on the flop and not draw to 6 outs.

Once you hit the turn shoving is standard, a river spade/paired board/overcard would really suck and you can't be calling the flop if you aren't willing to play for stacks when you hit.

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