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11-22-2011 , 08:17 AM

hashinsh

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Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 53

No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

BB (t3000)
Hero (UTG) (t2935)
UTG+1 (t2860)
MP1 (t3235)
MP2 (t360)
MP3 (t3320)
CO (t6145)
Button (t5920)
SB (t2605)

Hero's M: 97.83

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

, K

Hero bets t80, UTG+1 calls t80, 1 fold, MP2 raises t360 (All-In), 5 folds, Hero calls t280, UTG+1 calls t280

Flop: (t1110) J

, 3

, 10

(3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets t680, UTG+1 calls t680

Turn: (t2470) A

[color=#009B00] Hero?

Early in tourney and not much reads on opponents. I decided to flat in order to get some chips from UTG+1. It's clear he called with some piece of the flop. An A on the Turn hit his range well. Should I give up at this point?

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11-22-2011 , 08:21 AM

MartinGuthOBV

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,007

4b pre
c/f now

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11-22-2011 , 08:46 AM

4betblufff

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 77

3x+4bet pre (4x than 4bet looks stronger, kinda) as played really close,, looks like your pretty committed to the pot and prolly always have some outs.... Just check and than decide if you cr or cf since it is hard now to get value from less,,, hope for check

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11-22-2011 , 09:49 AM

furo

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

3x pre and i dont hate the flat, guess you could CIB as well.
def dont make it ~1k or something which forces him to shove/fold. we want him to continue and not to fold.
flop fine.
turn c/f is prolly best but feels dirty

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11-22-2011 , 01:21 PM

Texas Chuck

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,237

flat pre is obv fine and would be my default. Turn feels like a really dirty c/f.

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11-23-2011 , 09:07 AM

Finnera

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,621

Flati pre is fine, but like going to 750 has some merit. It kinda looks like we are isoing the shortstack with some 88/AJ stuff or w/e. -> utg could be tempted to flat/shove here and we raise the pot more. Flop bet looks good. c/f turn makes me wanna vomit but prolly best. In game, I'd go on tilt due to the ace and shove the turn! ...=)

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11-23-2011 , 10:41 AM

SlevinUp

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,000

I'd rather bet 600 then check, people just don't consider they have showdown value with worse and will just decide that this is a cheap way to turn there hand into a bluff

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