Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 9 players
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BTN: t1585 M = 35.22
SB: t1280 M = 28.44
BB: t1580 M = 35.11
UTG: t2020 M = 44.89
Hero (UTG+1): t1470 M = 32.67
UTG+2: t360 M = 8
MP1: t1510 M = 33.56
MP2: t1470 M = 32.67
CO: t2225 M = 49.44

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is UTG+1 with A K
1 fold, Hero raises to t90, UTG+2 calls t90, 4 folds, SB raises to t480, 1 fold, Hero ???


I'm not concerned with shorty UTG+1 (other than that he's providing some overlay). At the time of this hand, I had no read on SB.

Flatting seems bad as we commit a 3rd of our stack with an unmade hand. We can push with overlay, but his raise seems strong. Or we can let it go and wait for a better spot. What's the play against an unknown here?

I agree with flatting being bad, and thats not seems bad it is bad.

I actually don't know that his raise is that strong... really, he wants to pop it 5.33 times your raise with AA or KK? I would think he'd be more likely to make it somewhere in the 270-360 range with AA or KK.

Given the overlay and the fact I think you're ahead of his range (he likely has the same hand or AQ) and the fact this is a turbo, imo this is a push all day.

i would just fold and you're right flatting is very bad. i flat a 3b early on like once every month or two it seems.

sippin,

So you're going to fold, get shorter (its a turbo) and then pray for AQ? if did get AQ are you going to fold to a reraise then too?

sorry, I just think folding is pretty bad

I like to fold here since it's early and flipping with AK early is never really good according to ICM

+1.

Thundercat, do you think villain is raising over a third of his stack with AQ-?

I am also folding this early there.

That raise is about always ,99-QQ ,AK and we have no FE left after he put about 35% of his stack in play ,so with just that little invested I fold.

Choice is push or fold, flatting the 3 bet is bad as we'd want to see 5 cards with AK. Normally I wouldnt be getting it in here readless - if villain is running like 45/20 then I have no problems getting it in since we're not really 'flipping' against his range.

More interestingly in your hand is the fact there is a shorty. If we were sure that the shorty would call then this would create enough overlay in the pot so that stacking off here isnt so bad....

yeah you guys are probably right.... I think my mentality of never fold AK pf is wrong here, but thats b/c I've played like 500+ $1.20 stts this month and my thinking is muddied.

For this buyin calling is probably very bad. Glad I responded though now I know something I'll need to adjust when I work my way up to this level.

I agree that the reraise is a pair, qq or under, I would say TT-QQ, pple make these big raises with that sort of hands figuring the hand is good and they want to take down the pot or commit themselves. And yes, I would fold early on, no reason to flip even with the chips from the flatter, the reraiser is calling a push always.

i´d muck it

His raise indicates something even weaker than QQ, i'd say his range is around 88-JJ. In any case, he rarely shows up with AQ here, so I prefer a fold.

Imo Hero remains with only t360-t90=t270, very short with respect to the other players, more or less 10 times BB, and he's got AKo.
I would certainly shove all day long with a hand like this, just trying to catch one of these two things:
- double or triple up OR
- going out of this tournament as soon as possible, trying another one!

BTN: t1585 M = 35.22
SB: t1280 M = 28.44
BB: t1580 M = 35.11
UTG: t2020 M = 44.89
Hero (UTG+1): t1470 M = 32.67
UTG+2: t360 M = 8
MP1: t1510 M = 33.56
MP2: t1470 M = 32.67
CO: t2225 M = 49.44

I think this is probably pretty accurate, with the inclusion of AK. Most people just don't do 5x 3bets with big pairs.

+1 for folding, its too early

Oops, sorry, I made a mistake
In this case, I think that folding is the better solution.

90 chips shorter and you have like 46 BB left. to suggest we are ahead of his range with no stats is silly. but like you said you have played a lot of $1.20s this month and if I had done the same I'd feel like suggesting a shove as well. Also, sometimes, like on weekends or when the games are a bit crazy I will 4b shove AK vs randoms.

There's no way you have enough invested for this to be a shove. Just fold and move on to the next hand.

with stats you can get it in. Readless, seems like a pretty simple fold this early.

fold with no read or stats.

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