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08-08-2010 , 07:42 AM
All of the players are good regs.
Is this the place where we can shove wizard somewhere where the sun never shines and...well...shove?
If so, what's your range and if not, the latter question still applies.


Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 4 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: t2952 M = 2.68
Hero (CO): t2540 M = 2.31
BTN: t4126 M = 3.75
SB: t3882 M = 3.53

Pre Flop: (t1100) Hero is CO with A 4
Hero raises to t2490 all in
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08-08-2010 , 08:17 AM
How much does Wiz hate this ? I shove this pretty fast.
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08-08-2010 , 08:26 AM
Shove.
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08-08-2010 , 10:25 AM
somewhere around ATC looks good
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08-09-2010 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lesson
somewhere around ATC looks good
Why so wide?
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08-09-2010 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AmonPL
Why so wide?
4bb vs our direct opponent in the BB. our last chance at some fold-equity because regs will call very wide when we shove giving them more than 2:1 next orbit but will be less likely to snap us off light here. the stack dynamic is perfect for pushing 80-100%
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08-09-2010 , 06:05 AM
ATC no.

A4o, very fast !
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08-09-2010 , 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by lesson
4bb vs our direct opponent in the BB. our last chance at some fold-equity because regs will call very wide when we shove giving them more than 2:1 next orbit but will be less likely to snap us off light here. the stack dynamic is perfect for pushing 80-100%
Fair enough
I've asked because I'm wondering how much(if not at all) should you ignore ICM in this spot (according to nash, CO push range is 27%).
I understand yor reasoning, but is it, without any reads on your oponents, the best way to go?
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08-09-2010 , 06:30 AM
wiz is very bad in this spot.

its probably 75-100% vs regs and 100% vs unknowns
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08-09-2010 , 07:57 AM
pushing ATC is obviously bad.

When you fold, btn / SB shove a lot and you end the hand with more chips than SB.
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08-09-2010 , 08:06 AM
It is defo the very best possible place to shove and we cannot miss this opportunity for the life of us, but atc, not quite.
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08-09-2010 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RexWoo
pushing ATC is obviously bad.

When you fold, btn / SB shove a lot and you end the hand with more chips than SB.
dont know where ur getting this from. were blinding out first, this is our last chance at some FE.

pushing ATC against thinking regs might be bad. but if its not ATC its 75% at least. and folding vs an unknown BB is horrible imo
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