hahah... i dont even know what hes rambling about...

and i didnt know OP was OP.

heh...you don't really know how often i've wanted to do the exact same line but chickened out...nh

one time

Why did you not cbet on the flop? It's quite likely that if he has a monster he ships it in here pf. I also don't like the small 3bet OOP, especially if you're that passive postflop OOP, because he's getting nice odds to take a flop and outplay you IP (which he likes to do.. )

Turn is pretty terrible.

This is the thing, on one hand you are saying the 3bet is too small (which I agree it wasn't sized well) and that he will try to outplay post, but on the other you are saying calling the turn is terrible. The primary question that I am asking here is do we think he will be trying to bluff a rando here with say AT for example, which could quite likely be the best hand given the previous hand and my slightly laggier stats.

I like, so long as you typed "i put you on AK" into the chatbox after the hand

hurry up and post results already I want to see what juan had

Not gonna happen, sry. J/K he had AA.

The turn is terrible because you have no idea what you're doing. First of all he can also turn hands into a bluff that are better than your hand, which sucks (e.g. Ax). Secondly, what do you expect him to do on the river if he has JTs/86s, check behind? No, he's gonna shove and just a what happened here you'll be putting in your whole stack on a bluff catch / hero call with K high, which even loses to some of his bluffs. That seems pretty terrible seeing how nice your stack was to begin with.
Also note how it is so obvious that you do not have a hand. Why on earth would you check flop if you have a hand. There was not much history between the two of you, so when you then check on the best board to cbet it's pretty obvious you missed. I could see some merit in the line you took if you have TT/JJ, cause then you would still beat a lot of hands he may fire twice with after you check the flop.

The key issue in this hand is your pf betsizing in combination with your postflop passivity OOP with basically air. cbetting flop here is so much better, because it is still coherent with the range you were repping pf with the 3bet.
The line you take in a hand tells a small story to the opponent and when the story does not make any sense it is usually shenanigans or the stone cold nuts. Since the stone called nuts here is 22/88, which you likely are not 3betting like this or even checking river with, it's pretty clear you have an airball.

There is definitely a chance you won this hand knowing Juan, but that does not justify the line at all. Seeing how you also played that first hand I like his line no matter what he had.


Edit: guess he doesnt ship his monsters pf, very nice.

Who gives a **** what the correct way to play one notoriously different reg is? And since when was the point of this forum to dissect each other's games?

Anyway, hell no and what deurdy said in that TL;DR post seems about spot on to me.

Fair enough. I thought it was interesting enough to post and will not give results, as stated in the title I do think it is fairly spewy in hindsight.

I think if you had used it as a general example of playing a reg who plays a lot of hands and is not your standard nit postflop, with no names, there's an interesting discussion to be had, but whenever we do something personal here, a lot of the value is lost.

Your biggest "mistake" was to not Cbet.

Contibet and fold the Turn