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09-12-2009 , 08:00 AM

buffyslayer1

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Poker Stars $15+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (UTG+2): t1375 M = 18.33
MP1: t1855 M = 24.73
MP2: t1120 M = 14.93
CO: t1395 M = 18.60
BTN: t1255 M = 16.73
SB: t1210 M = 16.13
BB: t3330 M = 44.40
UTG: t1465 M = 19.53
UTG+1: t495 M = 6.60

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is UTG+2 with 7

2 folds, Hero raises to t150, 1 fold, MP2 calls t150, 4 folds

Flop: (t375) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets t250, MP2 raises to t900, Hero folds

intially thought this was a standard fold here, but after messing around in stove and putting some draws in his range as well as some oddly played AK its pretty close with the pot odds i am getting

thoughts on maybe calling?

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09-12-2009 , 08:33 AM

7castle

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I fold PF.

As played cbet little less and fold. I'd like to see a range you are good against.

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09-12-2009 , 08:37 AM

AnfieldRoad

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I fold pf and I don't think you stove well.

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09-12-2009 , 08:41 AM

IM A FLiRT

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I always fold PF.

There isn't even a FD out there, which makes me like a fold even more.

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09-12-2009 , 08:47 AM

buffyslayer1

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Originally Posted by AnfieldRoad

I fold pf and I don't think you stove well.

yeah maybe, tactful as always AR

just messing around with it really and was suprised at some (yeah alot crushed me) being close. I need to be good about 30% of the time with the 2.3-1 pot odds.

shoudl also add vilian was 57/4 with a 4 agg factor. shoudl have said in OP but couldnt find it in HEM at the time

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09-12-2009 , 08:48 AM

buffyslayer1

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Originally Posted by IM A FLiRT

I always fold PF.

There isn't even a FD out there, which makes me like a fold even more.

true but theres a few srt8 draws,
anyways got what i am looking for from this thread

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09-12-2009 , 09:01 AM

AnfieldRoad

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Tactful or not, I probably should be way, way, way harder on you.

You need about 42% to be good here. And even if you only needed to be good 30% of the time, your stove will have got to be unrealistic.

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09-12-2009 , 09:15 AM

buffyslayer1

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Originally Posted by AnfieldRoad

lol why should you be way harder on me

yeah your prob right about stove etc, i didnt work out the $ev but i presume this is where your 42% comes from?

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09-12-2009 , 09:37 AM

AnfieldRoad

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Because you've been here for over a year, with nearly a thousand posts, and this is where you're at.

42% comes straight from ICM.

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09-12-2009 , 02:53 PM

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Glitlr

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Folding or raising pf are both ok. Just depends who is sitting behind you I guess. cbet fold seems fine.

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09-12-2009 , 03:29 PM

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Deurdy

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Originally Posted by Glitlr

Folding or raising pf are both ok. Just depends who is sitting behind you I guess. cbet fold seems fine.

For once I'm with the glitery guy.

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09-12-2009 , 03:47 PM

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gobao

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I doubt u should even open stove for this situation. It is a clear b/f,b/c profitablly here is close to unrealistic.

And me folds pre.

42% I guess comes from putting this sit in ICM calculator

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09-12-2009 , 06:32 PM

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ghetto_clown

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Is limping this hand PF at the 50 level LoL bad? I mean normally i fold pf as well but have been experimenting some.

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09-12-2009 , 06:44 PM

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moneybag09

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im not playing small pairs in early pos at this stage, just asking for trouble, you want to play pairs like this in late pos with a few limpers before you, infact one would be enough, i do like you bet on the flop, dry flop only one overcard, has to be a fold to his 3bet of corse, calling here will lose you money in the long run, also you not gonna have that strong of a read on your apponant, as its early days, so u dont have a great grasp on his hand range, unless youve got him tracked or whatever.

The only way im calling here is if i knew his hand range and was sure im ahead, no point risking tourni life when your not sure you have the edge this early

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09-12-2009 , 08:19 PM

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7castle

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Originally Posted by ghetto_clown

Is limping this hand PF at the 50 level LoL bad? I mean normally i fold pf as well but have been experimenting some.

It sure is with no one in the pot so far and many players behind.

Limping can become profitable at CO or later with several limpers already in and tight/passive players behind.

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