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15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100 15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100

10-25-2011 , 04:00 PM
    Poker Stars, $13.70 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players

    hey!

    bbl was kinda aggro. villain is good reg at these buy-ins
    pre i thought he has a wide 3bet/fold range.
    on this bbl villains 3bet and shoved on me but i dont know if he saw my folds.
    maybe the hand is a little bit slow because of the 15bb stack

    thx dan

    Hero (BTN): 3,308 (33.1 bb)
    SB: 4,719 (47.2 bb)
    BB: 3,960 (39.6 bb)
    CO: 1,513 (15.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
    CO folds, Hero raises to 225, SB folds, BB raises to 600, Hero calls 375

    Flop: (1,250) 6 7 Q (2 players)
    BB bets 750, Hero calls 750

    Turn: (2,750) 2 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 1,958 and is all-in, BB calls 1,958

    River: (6,666) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)




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    15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100 Quote
    10-25-2011 , 04:29 PM
    Seems like a std 4bet/call to me.
    If he has a wide 3bet/fold range, 4bet small and let him outlevel himself.
    It's kinda hard to see him fold TT/JJ/AK type hands in this spot, and you lose a lot of value postflop as those hands miss a lot of flops and shut down.

    As played pf I'd shove over his cbet otf.
    As played otf I'd also shove the turn now.
    15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100 Quote
    10-25-2011 , 05:02 PM
    Line seems fine to me. You should 4b sometimes of course. Shoving flop is fine.
    15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100 Quote
    10-26-2011 , 01:00 AM
    Your line seems fine to me too. Based on your read that he is aggro I do not mind the flat of his 3 bet. I would expect him to c-bet a lot on the flop allowing you to build the pot and hopefully get your chips in. If he had AQ here there is nothing that you can do but take a note and move on to the next one.
    15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100 Quote
    10-26-2011 , 05:37 AM
    shoving flop is pretty bad, at least in the short term, if you think he is remotely capable of bluffing/barreling with equity
    15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100 Quote
    10-26-2011 , 06:08 AM
    thx guys!

    pre, a small 4bet is maybe fine i think and he would have a hard time to fold with goods odds.
    my main thought was, that he was or is going to abuse me with 3bets to my opens.
    maybe he want to leave me with push/fold decision so if i dont adjust this works fine on bbl i guess. so my default play with AA/KK is to flat his 3bet because i think he would c-bet a lot. i want him to build a pot and i have position. so if he miss to build it, i would do it for him.
    i would be nice if he c-bets larger but i think if he had a huge hand he would maybe bet bigger on this flop and the 15bb stack but after a call the pot is big enough to shove on turn.
    that would be my standard on flop also but i am not sure when the point is i have to deviate from this line because of bbl and "short stack".
    or does the 15bb not concerning us ver strong in this spot, when does he?

    that might seem like the fancy play syndrom but a lot aggro villains really overplay hands to weak lines. thats what i feel in my games but i dont play enough to have really great experience :-(

    dan
    15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100 Quote
    10-26-2011 , 03:18 PM
    Well played. 4bet pre is also an option, but i guess with the read that hes capable of 3b/folding you played the hand pretty optimal.
    15$ 9m reg - linecheck - KK on bbl t100 Quote

          
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