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09-25-2015 , 05:58 PM
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So basically what I want to know is, when we have this much of a chip advantage is it okay to go allin every hand or should I have played it differently? Usually I play my A game heads up to try to win at all costs, but because of my lead and my history with the player, I wanted to bust him pretty badly.

Hand 1
    Pacific, $0.85 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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    BB: 625 (4.2 bb)
    Hero (SB): 8,375 (55.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J 4 :: ::
    Hero raises to 750, BB calls 460 and is all-in

    Flop: (1,250) 9 J A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (1,250) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (1,250) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 1,250 pot
    Final Board: 9 J A 4 Q
    BB showed T 7 :: :: and won 1,250 (625 net)
    Hero showed J 4 :: :: and lost (-625 net)



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    Hand 2
      Pacific, $0.85 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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      SB: 1,250 (8.3 bb)
      Hero (BB): 7,750 (51.7 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 J :: ::
      SB raises to 1,235 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,085

      Flop: (2,500) 2 8 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: (2,500) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (2,500) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: 2,500 pot
      Final Board: 2 8 2 J 4
      SB showed T J :: :: and won 2,500 (1,250 net)
      Hero showed 9 J :: :: and lost (-1,250 net)



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      Hand 3
        Pacific, $0.85 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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        BB: 2,500 (16.7 bb)
        Hero (SB): 6,500 (43.3 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with J Q :: ::
        Hero raises to 300, BB raises to 2,485 and is all-in, Hero calls 2,185

        Flop: (5,000) K 5 A (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: (5,000) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: (5,000) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: 5,000 pot
        Final Board: K 5 A 8 8
        BB showed T A :: :: and won 5,000 (2,500 net)
        Hero showed J Q :: :: and lost (-2,500 net)



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        Hand 4
          Pacific, $0.85 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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          SB: 5,000 (33.3 bb)
          Hero (BB): 4,000 (26.7 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 Q :: ::
          SB raises to 4,985 and is all-in, Hero calls 3,835 and is all-in

          Flop: (8,000) 8 7 A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
          Turn: (8,000) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
          River: (8,000) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: 8,000 pot
          Final Board: 8 7 A 5 8
          SB showed 6 A :: :: and won 8,000 (4,000 net)
          Hero showed 4 Q :: :: and lost (-4,000 net)



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          We were already trash talking each other before heads up because of this hand which he was pretty pissed about:
            Pacific, $0.85 Buy-in (75/150 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37128348

            SB: 3,771 (25.1 bb)
            Hero (BB): 3,025 (20.2 bb)
            CO: 1,731 (11.5 bb)
            BTN: 473 (3.2 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 J :: ::
            2 folds, SB raises to 300, Hero raises to 600, SB calls 300

            Flop: (1,260) 5 J 2 (2 players)
            Hero bets 450, SB raises to 3,156 and is all-in, Hero calls 1,960 and is all-in

            Turn: (6,080) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
            River: (6,080) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

            Results: 6,080 pot
            Final Board: 5 J 2 5 9
            SB showed 4 K :: :: and lost (-3,025 net)
            Hero showed 7 J :: :: and won 6,080 (3,055 net)



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            15-1 chip lead heads up - poorly played or no? Quote
            09-26-2015 , 03:41 AM
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            HateMyLife
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            hand 1,2 and 3 look fine to me. Are you siriously asking whether calling off a 26bb jam with Q4s is a good play?
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            09-26-2015 , 04:47 AM
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            There are only two problems with these plays.

            1st: You seem to have been trying to "force" the breaking of another player's stack.

            2nd: You really over valued your kicker/two pair.

            You would have lost less chips, if you just called/check pre-flop and let your opponent show you his hand via his bet sizing.
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            09-26-2015 , 04:51 AM
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            another note, never go all in pre-flop.You lose all control over the hand at that point and leave yourself open to racking up another bad beat story.
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            09-26-2015 , 07:58 AM
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            Quote:
            Originally Posted by edholden
            another note, never go all in pre-flop.You lose all control over the hand at that point and leave yourself open to racking up another bad beat story.
            This advice is beyond terrible
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            09-26-2015 , 01:45 PM
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            Hand 1: super standard. J4s not even close to the bottom of your shoving range.

            Hand 2+3: i think we can mostly fold these in an 0.85c since most opponents don't shove wide enough. If he's randomly shoving every hand it becomes a different story obviously.

            Hand 4: Seems like a classic example of tilt.

            Hand 5: zero reason to 3bet J7o, certainly not with that sizing. Flop bet is too small also.

            Quote:
            Originally Posted by edholden
            another note, never go all in pre-flop.You lose all control over the hand at that point and leave yourself open to racking up another bad beat story.
            Yeah, no offence, but this is just wrong on so many levels.
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            09-26-2015 , 03:45 PM
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            I don't take any offense. I just feel that you not leaving yourself any options once you are all in pre-flop. No matter what your starting hand is.
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            09-26-2015 , 04:44 PM
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            I can't even
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