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01-28-2010 , 09:24 PM

Kvaughan

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Full Tilt Poker $14 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40/t80 Blinds - 6 players
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MP: t600 M = 5
CO: t515 M = 4.29
BTN: t168 M = 1.40
Hero (SB): t220 M = 1.83
BB: t628 M = 5.23
UTG: t569 M = 4.74

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is SB with Q

UTG raises to t569 all in, 3 folds, Hero?

As I see it, there's no way that a normal ICM calculation (wiz for example) is going to yield that a call here is correct here. On wiz, the villain has to be shoving ~35% to yield a positive edge. But, considering that if we fold we have no fold equity in the future and considering that we have a hand that plays decently well against his likely shoving range, does anyone like a call here?

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01-28-2010 , 11:20 PM

Cardfish1

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Ugly spot and I probably fold. I'd be more interested in how you got to this point. Did you fold your BB?

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01-29-2010 , 02:05 AM

Ragnaer

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Seeing as everyone else called here and the BB is the 'big stack' I dont think a call here is bad.

I would be interested to see his stats though, the more loose he is the more likely I would call, where as if he was more of a tag i would be more inclined to fold and be prepared to shove a wide range of hands when you have first in vigorish

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01-29-2010 , 02:34 AM

Kvaughan

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Originally Posted by Cardfish1

Ugly spot and I probably fold. I'd be more interested in how you got to this point. Did you fold your BB?

I don't remember. Why is it relevant?

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Originally Posted by Ragnaer

24/18 over 160 hands.

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01-29-2010 , 03:17 AM

touche

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Yeap, u must call here. qj'o it's a fine card to call.

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01-29-2010 , 10:27 AM

arjun13

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Interesting spot. This could be one of those spots where you make a slightly -EV decision in order avoid a huge -EV decision in the future. Having said that, you will be surprised at how much FE you have with 180 chips at 40/80 in these, especially against fish.

I am leaning towards a fold. You have a few hands where you can push 50-60% when folded to you from any position

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01-29-2010 , 01:10 PM

scarypooper5

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If you had any more chips is an easy fold. If you had a worse hand it's a very easy fold. That's against a random. If it's a good regular I actually fold here, just because their range is still relatively tight.

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