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0 KO, 99 on Jxx against good villain, OOP 0 KO, 99 on Jxx against good villain, OOP

06-10-2010 , 10:19 PM
villain running 15/12/2.8 over a large sample, FOLD TO CBET 14% (1/7)
had a note that said he's solid aggressive.
3rd hand in a row that i've opened, first hand they all folded, 2nd hand i cbet 2/3 pot on drawy flop and (a different) villain folded.
someone re-teach me how to play post flop! hate spots like these.

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UTG: t12793 M = 18.95
UTG+1: t5096 M = 7.55
Hero (UTG+2): t6825 M = 10.11
MP1: t12927 M = 19.15
MP2: t11083 M = 16.42
CO: t14145 M = 20.96
BTN: t19567 M = 28.99
SB: t16233 M = 24.05
BB: t27369 M = 40.55

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is UTG+2 with 9 9
2 folds, Hero raises to t700, 2 folds, CO calls t700, 3 folds

Flop: (t2075) 5 J 4 (2 players)
Hero needs a plan
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06-10-2010 , 10:21 PM
gross, looks like a c/f with that read
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06-10-2010 , 10:40 PM
minbet, if he calls, minbet again on the turn.

im serious.

hell be too confused to raise against your stack.
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06-10-2010 , 11:07 PM
it looks like he has a marginal hand here maybe AJ middle pairs like 55-88. really im so freaking confused since you say hes a competent player yet hes flating ur stack. idk maybe you should c/f but that seems so weak. id either c/f or c/s
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06-11-2010 , 02:53 AM
tough one...could go either way but i prob throw a bet out there
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06-11-2010 , 03:36 AM
jesus guys, u are too scared to play tourneys
its a hard flop to connect with... he should know that,.
that combined with ur image lately, think u can get him to spew
it in here veeeery light. i bet 1300 and call a push from him.

Last edited by $ergioRamo$; 06-11-2010 at 03:37 AM. Reason: sucks @ writing
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06-11-2010 , 03:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by $ergioRamo$
jesus guys, u are too scared to play tourneys
its a hard flop to connect with... he should know that,.
that combined with ur image lately, think u can get him to spew
it in here veeeery light. i bet 1300 and call a push from him.
well...i sorta agree.

depends on how aggro villain has been whn "not folding to cbets" if they have been floating alot then i fold to a jam. if they float us here i snap check ott and porlly shove on a bet. i def think we sohuld be betting this flop tho.
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06-11-2010 , 05:12 AM
def check, call most bets from him otf, fold lots ott if he doulbe barrels
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06-11-2010 , 05:41 AM
switch up between open jamming and raise/calling pre. as played 985 on flop and jus give up afterwards. check/fold if you've seen villian slowplay hands in the past.
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06-11-2010 , 05:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by areaman
minbet, if he calls, minbet again on the turn.

im serious.

hell be too confused to raise against your stack.
seems like a decent line with op's read (fold to cbet 1/7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Protential
depends on how aggro villain has been whn "not folding to cbets" if they have been floating alot then i fold to a jam. if they float us here i snap check ott and porlly shove on a bet. i def think we sohuld be betting this flop tho.
+1
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06-11-2010 , 05:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chesskid1
. as played 985 on flop and jus give up afterwards. check/fold if you've seen villian slowplay hands in the past.
Wat? didnt u see he rarely folds to cbets
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06-11-2010 , 09:19 AM
im with $erg on this one. We know hes floating his whole range. Im betting flop and betting almost every turn. In fact I cant think of a turn card where I wouldn't fire again.
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06-11-2010 , 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by $ergioRamo$
jesus guys, u are too scared to play tourneys
its a hard flop to connect with... he should know that,.
that combined with ur image lately, think u can get him to spew
it in here veeeery light. i bet 1300 and call a push from him.
This
what Jx hands is he flatting here? QJ/JT? Stop fearing the monster and be/c or bet c/j turn. He could have about four hands that beat you and you know hell put chips in here a lot as a float (since he probably didnt hit 6/7 flops even tho lol sample size)
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06-11-2010 , 01:35 PM
ok so when he minraises me it's probably better to jam, but i was planning to get it in OTT a lot. not so sure now.

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UTG: t12793 M = 18.95
UTG+1: t5096 M = 7.55
Hero (UTG+2): t6825 M = 10.11
MP1: t12927 M = 19.15
MP2: t11083 M = 16.42
CO: t14145 M = 20.96
BTN: t19567 M = 28.99
SB: t16233 M = 24.05
BB: t27369 M = 40.55

Pre Flop: (t675) Hero is UTG+2 with 9 9
2 folds, Hero raises to t700, 2 folds, CO calls t700, 3 folds

Flop: (t2075) 5 J 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t850, CO raises to t1700, Hero calls t850

Turn: (t5475) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t5475, Hero
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06-11-2010 , 02:01 PM
u cant call a raise otf unless its a shove. u can shove otf or fold ( i fold) .
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06-11-2010 , 02:26 PM
we seem to see this a lot...hero's calling raises of their C bets OOP with no real plans or reasoning...before we bet the flop we need a plan...if the plan includes calling a folding to further aggression it is not a great plan cause I doubt we get to showdown cheap...people just don't take aggressive actions on the flop and then just run and hide often enough
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06-11-2010 , 04:26 PM
either shove or fold to the 3bet otf. I like the bet on the flop and I'd probably shove based off your history and the fact that you have been very active lately. I don't think folding is bad either though. Calling puts you in a wierd spot ott though and i don't think you can fold now.
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