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08-04-2010 , 08:58 AM
Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t150/t300 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
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UTG+1: t3480 M = 5.35
MP1: t6345 M = 9.76
MP2: t9481 M = 14.59
CO: t6756 M = 10.39
BTN: t5570 M = 8.57
SB: t3210 M = 4.94
Hero (BB): t2645 M = 4.07
UTG: t2585 M = 3.98

Pre Flop: (t650) Hero is BB with Q J
2 folds, MP1 calls t300, 2 folds, BTN calls t300, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2620 all in

In spot's like this, I think we rarely find folds are are almost always looked up. This is more of a theoretical spot I would guess where there are a lot of loose preflop players.

Given I presumably have little to no fold equity but that there is 675 (+ a good chance one of the two limpers may fold) is the range of QJs too wide here?

I would guess I would probably be jamming 66+,ATs+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KQo in these spots but at the $12/180 level I'm not sure if this range is optimal.

Thoughts please..
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08-04-2010 , 09:01 AM
seems fine. gambol

and you get folds.
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08-04-2010 , 10:18 AM
meh
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08-04-2010 , 10:31 AM
good spot imo. even if we are called we are rarely dominated. and they fold a lot. nh.
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08-04-2010 , 10:42 AM
wp.
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08-04-2010 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by f3nix35
Given I presumably have little to no fold equity but that there is 675 (+ a good chance one of the two limpers may fold) is the range of QJs too wide here?
Thoughts please..
You have plenty of fold equity
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08-04-2010 , 12:52 PM
still have plenty of fold equity. I like this play. Do it.
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08-04-2010 , 12:57 PM
Is a good shove. I also don't mind taking the free flop here. We definitely need to win some chips so the shove is good, but if players have been limp/calling a small shove like this 90% of the time PF, I think it's a -EV play.

That said, occasionally take the free flop and shove any flop that has no A or K. If you hit the flop, consider a CRAI. Just another option but I like it as played.
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08-04-2010 , 01:32 PM
This is a really easy shove, even if you get snapped off by Ax 100% of the time it's still profitable. Nice hand OP.
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08-04-2010 , 01:56 PM
I find you normally have FE against fish the first time you do this, the second time they start calling hellah wide. But even then, once they start calling hellah wide they start calling with QT and other crap that we are actually ahead of as well. So needless to say I like the ship here.
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08-04-2010 , 02:03 PM
Looks like a sexy play, might try it myself sometime

You have buckets of FE against random limptard fish (OP offered no reads on villains)
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