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04-13-2011 , 06:50 AM
i think this is very spewy but i'd like to hear some thoughts.

villain was playing aggro 38/17 and ive seen him make some aggressive plays.

i think in this spot my mind went like that:
he can be check raising air, this is a fine flop to do it with, i think with my reraise allin i can get most of his pocket pairs to fold, and i may get him to lay down many of his aces except maybe AT,AJ,AQ (i think he would reraise with AK oop and put me all in. maybe with AQ also).

if i folded, i would have had just 11bb's and be in allin mode allover again.

Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1000/t2000 Blinds + t200 - 9 players
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MP2: t32558 M = 6.78
CO: t64234 M = 13.38
BTN: t47816 M = 9.96
SB: t70728 M = 14.73
BB: t37241 M = 7.76
UTG: t87807 M = 18.29
UTG+1: t21189 M = 4.41
Hero (UTG+2): t34377 M = 7.16
MP1: t75877 M = 15.81

Pre Flop: (t4800) Hero is UTG+2 with 7 7
2 folds, Hero raises to t4129, 4 folds, SB calls t3129, 1 fold

Flop: (t12058) A 5 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t4582, SB raises to t9164, Hero raises to t30048 all in
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04-13-2011 , 07:30 AM
open fold pre
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04-13-2011 , 07:36 AM
really? isn't this too nitty?
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04-13-2011 , 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
really? isn't this too nitty?
no and this hand illustrates why...with our stack position is more important than anything...be more aggressive wider in LP when you have less people to get through.

You just don't have the chips to be opening and c betting. Also your hand is a little weak to r/c so...open fold...save the chips to 3 bet shove later or to open CO+
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04-13-2011 , 07:40 AM
would u ever consider open shoving pre?
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04-13-2011 , 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
would u ever consider open shoving pre?
yes depending on reads and stacks...it is def better than opening but again from UTG+1 you need to get through a lot of potential bladed hands
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04-13-2011 , 07:49 AM
jam pre.
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04-13-2011 , 08:18 AM
Yeah it's prob marginal but shoving pre is best
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04-13-2011 , 09:54 AM
66 fold 77 shove. no in between
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04-13-2011 , 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
66 fold 77 shove. no in between
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Think 7's are too big of a hand to openfold here.
Postflop is obv super rocket spew - as it seems like a very unlikely board to spazz out on at a A high board with a shortish UTG raiser with a pretty tight range.
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04-13-2011 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by BurnzDK
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Think 7's are too big of a hand to openfold here.
Postflop is obv super rocket spew - as it seems like a very unlikely board to spazz out on at a A high board with a shortish UTG raiser with a pretty tight range.
as played you would fold after his raise and keep your 11bbs? im often confused when i have very little left and i feel commited or that i must take a huge chance to bluff him out rather than keep my very tinish stack there.
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04-13-2011 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
as played you would fold after his raise and keep your 11bbs? im often confused when i have very little left and i feel commited or that i must take a huge chance to bluff him out rather than keep my very tinish stack there.
Why would you put in 11bbs when you most likely have 2 outs?
Even tho its a suck stack there much better ways to use it.
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04-13-2011 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BurnzDK
Why would you put in 11bbs when you most likely have 2 outs?
Even tho its a suck stack there much better ways to use it.
cause i do have some folding equity i think against some of his range for check-raising
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04-13-2011 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
cause i do have some folding equity i think against some of his range for check-raising
which hands would these be? hes getting 2.67:1 so you dont need to have that many bluffs for it to be alright. plus theres a big % of people who will try to hero and not fold KK here and smaller but still kind of significant for QQ too
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04-13-2011 , 11:14 AM
isn't he folding all pocket pairs and all Ax where x <9?
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04-13-2011 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
isn't he folding all pocket pairs and all Ax where x <9?
youre assuming hes gonna turn these hands into bluffs here which he has no reason to. i dont see him check min raising A3s on the flop just because
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04-13-2011 , 11:20 AM
yeah i think you are right. so that just leaves pocket pairs that want protection but...i think the combos are not many
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04-13-2011 , 11:42 AM
i hope you didnt think he'd ever fold Ax
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04-13-2011 , 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mullen
i hope you didnt think he'd ever fold Ax
i thought he would...if he had a bad kicker
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04-13-2011 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by snowboard789
yeah i think you are right. so that just leaves pocket pairs that want protection but...i think the combos are not many
Any pair above you raises pre. 66 44 33 22 probably aren't continuing let alone raise to protect.
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04-13-2011 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by cicakman
Any pair above you raises pre. 66 44 33 22 probably aren't continuing let alone raise to protect.
i think 66,88,99,TT are not getting raised that often from the button versus EP raises because they dont want to get it in with these stack sizes?
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04-13-2011 , 12:22 PM
anw its a bad spew overall
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04-13-2011 , 12:30 PM
+1 to shove pre
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