sorry couldn't convert this hand properly so just posted it from hh. we just got to the ft and this was the 2nd hand I was dealt. only reads on villan from watching the other table is he was playing pretty tight and playing small pairs and AJ +. I thought there was a chance he was slow playing AA KK here with the check back on the flop. when I bet turn I obv took AA and KK out of his range and was thinking more of a flush draw now and when the river came and I bet and he shoved figured there was no way he has a 7 here and don't really like folding with 10 bigs left...

So I would like some feed back on how to play this hand in this spot. any feed back appreciated and sorry for the not so organized hh


Winning Poker Network Game #264204460: No Limit Holdem (1,500/3,000) [2014/03/17 07:21:47 UTC]
Table: $4,000 GTD R/A, Table 8
Tournament: 1561193
Seats: 9
Seat 1: mattstei15 (37,476)
Seat 2: krushurdreams (55,565)
Seat 3: hero(57,002)
Seat 4: NarcoC0p (365,763)
Seat 5: Scotty28 (79,557)
Seat 6: Pokemon Master (94,873)
Seat 7: escott121181 (218,228)
Seat 8: fastpokercash (65,216)
Seat 9: KFazzio (98,820)
Button is seat 1
krushurdreams: antes 300
hero: antes 300
NarcoC0p: antes 300
Scotty28: antes 300
Pokemon Master: antes 300
escott121181: antes 300
fastpokercash: antes 300
KFazzio: antes 300
mattstei15: antes 300
krushurdreams: posts small blind 1,500
hero: posts big blind 3,000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
hero: dealt [5h 5c]
NarcoC0p: folds
Scotty28: raises 6,057
Pokemon Master: folds
escott121181: folds
fastpokercash: folds
KFazzio: folds
mattstei15: folds
krushurdreams: folds
hero: calls 3,057
*** FLOP *** [5s 6h 8d]
hero: checks
Scotty28: checks
*** TURN *** [5s 6h 8d] [Ts]
hero: bets 8,215
Scotty28: calls 8,215
*** RIVER *** [5s 6h 8d] [Ts] [4c]
hero: bets 11,345
Scotty28: raises all-in 64,985
hero: raises all-in 31,085
Scotty28: pulls back uncalled bet 22,555
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: 117,604 | Rake: 0 |
Board: [5s 6h 8d Ts 4c]
Seat 1: mattstei15 lost -300
Seat 2: krushurdreams lost -1,800
Seat 3:hero lost -57,002 [5h 5c]
Seat 4: NarcoC0p lost -300
Seat 5: Scotty28 won 117,604 (+60,602) [Ad 7d]
Seat 6: Pokemon Master lost -300
Seat 7: escott121181 lost -300
Seat 8: fastpokercash lost -300
Seat 9: KFazzio lost -300

shoot me but I'd fold pre. More OTT and not sure what you're trying to induce with your river bet, just c/d.

Agree with ^^. When you have 20bb left I'm folding to a prob-tight player-open, especially if he opens utg..

As played; maybe you don't see much 7's in his range, but you have to know that villian don't put 7's in your range as well when he's shoving river. And I don't think he's levelling you with knowing he doesn't have that much fold equity when you bet the river keeping 10bb~ish behind.

shove pre>>fold>>>>>call

villain has just enough of a stack to squeeze through one steal, and you shoving over utg will look strong so he should have the top top of his likely 15% opening range to call you off

snapping river in 0.033 sec

fold or shove pre

This

I lean towards fold/shove pre here against most, and I think it's a clear fold vs someone with a tight opening range.
I would consider leading this flop, along with gutshots+overs/A5 type hands.
When flop checks through, I am going bet/bet. If we're not betting sets here then we are very bluff heavy on the river. I'm not concerned about being beaten on this river when he has to have a 7 in his tight opening range AND check his oesd on the flop (or played a better set somewhat strangely). We will get plenty of value from Tx/overpairs.
The river raise is tough b/c as mentioned he doesn't have much 7x but he doesn't have many bluffs either aside from some Axss type hands, but I lean towards calling with those odds.

Why is as terrible calling pre?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNp859Axzwo

You just need to put 1bb to see a flop, it's ridiculous to fold this hand pre

So shoving pre is the best option vs a tight player raising in UTG... great!!

thanks for the feedback everyone I appreciate it. I think I like calling pre here esp against a pretty tight opening player since if we flop a set vs his AA KK QQ JJ etc then we obv get it in on the flop if not def on turn and we double.

after looking the hh over several times I don't think shoving pre vs this particular villan is the best play but that's just my opinion. If we flop a set and he has a big pair we get it in and double if we don't flop the set then we just move on to the next hand.

as played in this hh. I think checking the flop is fine and leading the turn is good but obv should have bet more on the turn, and on the river I should just be checking here and prob calling a smallish bet and if he bombs river then im prob just folding

its a good thing you posted this hand so ppl could tell u stuff that u did wrong just for u to refute it and say u played it well... def gonna improve that way

I didn't refuse any of the advice given in this thread. people obv play this hand diff no matter what. I also didn't say I played it well but after reviewing the hh I think Im still calling pre and the only thing im doing diff is checking river..

if it was obv someone who had a wide opening range then im shoving pre and if its a super nit im gonna call and fold flop if I miss.. I think this is a diff scenario say if I was co or button I think its an easy fold since there are people left to act behind. Since im last to act here in the bb I think calling here was the best play but obv could be wrong here and could have folded...

I would like input why folding here is better then calling here for 1bb more?

I would also like your input on this hand as well since you are a reg and obv are a winning player with good results.

Fair enough I'd always flat from bb here vs a tight opener I think those saying fold are wrong.. I'd lead this flop (pot 15k) for abt 6400 bet 11k ott and jam any river... as played betting the river is fine here imo but we can't call the jam that's a tough board for him to rep 7x as pfr i wouldn't expect him to be bluffing here often enough to make this a call.. his line is fairly consistent with 7x that doesn't want to stack off

hmmm nvm my post. we squeeze in a call for set mine here :/

I think the entire hand is fine except for the river call - he's rarely bluffing river when it's hard for him to rep a 7 and you have a bunch of 7x combos in your range.

b/f river

would be doing the same thing pre. a lot of people are donking their naked 7s and some pair+sds which makes me feel like you should be donking your set here a pretty decent amount of the time. i mix in some c/cs and c/rs depending on opponent but i def wanna donk this with a high frequency.

as played, inclined to go bigger on the turn.

river i agree with fatso that its so so hard for villain to rep a 7 here that it seems so unlikely that he's bluffing. one thing he didn't mention tho is that you have so many 7s in your range that it is even less likely to be shown a bluff here bc villain is just bluffing into a straight a lot of the time.

it's hard not to click call but i think you gotta fold river here. good bet tho