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04-03-2008 , 11:16 AM
Poker Stars $105+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 3 players
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confused28 (BTN): t4095
Hero (SB): t4735
il santo 69 (BB): t4670

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with J 9
1 fold, Hero raises to t375, il santo 69 calls t225

Flop: (t750) 3 A J (2 players)
Hero?


Poker Stars $105+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t75/t150 Blinds - 6 players
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voigt2006 (UTG): t1915
SirECartman (MP): t2965
Premier (CO): t1475
popotamo (BTN): t945
Hero (SB): t2865
VendetaV (BB): t3335

Pre Flop: Hero is SB with A 4
4 folds, Hero raises to t375, VendetaV calls t225

Flop: (t750) J 3 4 (2 players)
Hero?
4: mid pair bvb (2 hands) Quote
04-03-2008 , 11:36 AM
1)Reads? I don't know him so well, does he get bluffy here? If I have KJ,QJ, I like check a lot more but I could go either way here depending on how I think he reacts.

2)VV doesn't get too crazy here & we have an awkward stack size. I'd C/B sometimes & c/f other times.
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04-03-2008 , 12:14 PM
Hand 1: Lead the flop, you are in the money and he will call you very wide preflop.

Hand 2: I don't really understand what he can just flat call you with, even if he ahs Aces I think it's a terrible play vs you.
I lead this flop also.
4: mid pair bvb (2 hands) Quote
04-03-2008 , 02:07 PM
i'd just c-bet both of them and be done if you meet resistance.
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04-03-2008 , 02:12 PM
cbet both and suck out on turn when they flat call u. also i dont really like 375 bvb with marginal hands as it just reallly invites calls and puts u in crappy spots oop, this thread is a good example.
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04-03-2008 , 03:24 PM
Lead flop on both and shut down if called. Maybe call one weak turn bet depending on turn and villian's floatability.
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04-03-2008 , 03:37 PM
c/c flop in hand 1.
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04-03-2008 , 03:45 PM
Aren't these the worst kind of hands to c-bet with because our opponent will play almost perfectly vs it? Would check calling not be a better way to get chips in when we're ahead and then either improve or check fold on the turn. Lead turn if they check behind the flop. I think thats how I would tend to play these kind of spots but dunno if its better than just c-betting.
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04-12-2008 , 02:21 PM
Hand 1 bet the flop and hope it ends the hand. With the ace on board you will usually get respect and prolonging the hand by checking out of position, with the intention of trying to play "poker" leaves us in an uncomfortable situation. Too many overcards, gives our opponent the chance to outplay us pretty easily etc etc. If our opponent wants to bluff raise if we bet, thats fine because a decent % of the time we will actually have an ace, so it's not like they are making some strong automatic raise.

Btw the value of our hand isn't so important here when we bet, but I definitely feel more comfortable with that play. If we had K9 and the flop was AKx I'd be a lot more likely to check.


Hand 2 I'd mix it up I guess, bet sometimes, check sometimes? The value of your hand is close to meaningless because once you bet the A4 it will hardly ever go to showdown. Of course the value of your hand means a lot more if it keeps getting checked. You can also consider a check raise.
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