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10-13-2013 , 04:51 PM
I had AQs here and decided to isolate the all-in short stack but ran into KK, could I have played this differently. Surely, i'm not expected to fold AQs here, am I?



    Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 120 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #19973071

    MP2: 16,668 (13.9 bb)
    Hero (MP3): 41,936 (34.9 bb)
    CO: 17,250 (14.4 bb)
    BTN: 14,888 (12.4 bb)
    SB: 26,014 (21.7 bb)
    BB: 54,316 (45.3 bb)
    UTG+1: 13,204 (11 bb)
    UTG+2: 12,228 (10.2 bb)
    MP1: 25,602 (21.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A Q
    UTG+1 raises to 13,084 and is all-in, 3 folds, Hero raises to 41,816 and is all-in, 3 folds, BB calls 40,616

    Flop: (98,396) 8 Q 4 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (98,396) 6 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (98,396) 4 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 98,396 pot
    Final Board: 8 Q 4 6 4
    Hero showed A Q and lost (-41,936 net)
    BB showed K K and won 98,396 (56,460 net)
    UTG+1 showed A T and lost (-13,204 net)



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    10-13-2013 , 05:10 PM
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    STT Strategy Discussion about the play of single table tournaments.
    Sunday storm only had 9 players today? wow
    OT: I can see a call here and just play the flop if BB calls, fold if he re-shoves. But IMO it isn't a bad play to iso here
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    10-13-2013 , 05:14 PM
    Moved....
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    10-13-2013 , 05:22 PM
    BBV.
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    10-13-2013 , 05:25 PM
    if BB is a decent player i afraid that he may sqeeze relatively light so i am not sure that just calling and then folding is a correct
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    10-13-2013 , 05:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Onlyvictory
    if BB is a decent player i afraid that he may sqeeze relatively light so i am not sure that just calling and then folding is a correct
    Huh? Hero pushed with what is now an effective stack of 24BBs.
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    10-13-2013 , 06:39 PM
    standard shove wp.
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    10-13-2013 , 08:05 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Onlyvictory
    if BB is a decent player i afraid that he may sqeeze relatively light so i am not sure that just calling and then folding is a correct
    In the sunday storm, one may never assume that an opponent is a decent player, except if he has shown to be. Does OP have any history/reads/stats on BB?
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    10-13-2013 , 08:14 PM
    It depends a lot on dynamics...players tend to push too tight, and call too tight.

    I'd probably call based on stacks alone...but go with reads.
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    10-14-2013 , 01:36 AM
    standard shove at this spr
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    10-14-2013 , 05:10 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Onlyvictory
    if BB is a decent player i afraid that he may sqeeze relatively light so i am not sure that just calling and then folding is a correct
    Thanks guys:

    Given the stack sizes, I was only worried about BB tbh and I thought if I shove, he has to call with only 2.6% of hands (QQ+, AK) if he's not a gambler so 97.4% of the times i can't bust even if small stack guy has AA. If he calls with anything worse than 2.6% then it's either a race or he's behind so that's +ev for me anyway.

    I was never really worried about a squeeze because if I just call UTG+1 preflop and he squeezes, the pot will have +60k giving me 2 to 1 if I complete. That means I will only need slightly over 33% winning chance to show a profit by calling his squeeze. Now AQs obviously has more than 33% winning chance against his squeeze range so I will have to call. Because of that reason, i thought it's better to just shove and give myself more ways of winning (i.e make him fold or beat his call)

    I guess my original question which doesn't seem to have been answered is, if I'm sitting with 34bb in a touney approaching a bubble and I see someone with 7bb-12bb going all-in, should I be calling them with AQs type of hands or is their stack just slightly bigger to risk losing 35% of my stack?
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    10-14-2013 , 06:36 PM
    just unlucky that the only player with a stack of more than 20 BB's happened to wake up with a monster hand.
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    10-14-2013 , 06:38 PM
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    Originally Posted by mypokerphd
    I guess my original question which doesn't seem to have been answered is, if I'm sitting with 34bb in a touney approaching a bubble and I see someone with 7bb-12bb going all-in, should I be calling them with AQs type of hands or is their stack just slightly bigger to risk losing 35% of my stack?
    Too generic a question. You have to take these spots on a situation by situation basis. It would depend on other stacks at the table, positions, types of opponents, etc...
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    05-08-2015 , 08:56 PM
    File: HH20150508 Halley #5 - $0.01-$0.02 - USD No Limit Hold'em.txt
    PokerStars Zoom Hand #134955249861: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2015/05/08 16:29:27 WET [2015/05/08 11:29:27 ET]
    Table 'Halley' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: foodcoorner ($2.98 in chips)
    Seat 2: TopPoplavok ($0.42 in chips)
    Seat 3: valerossipma ($2.24 in chips)
    Seat 4: akinoshima ($2.28 in chips)
    Seat 5: mypokerphd ($4.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: MV429 ($0.49 in chips)
    TopPoplavok: posts small blind $0.01
    valerossipma: posts big blind $0.02
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mypokerphd [9h As]
    akinoshima: folds
    mypokerphd: raises $0.04 to $0.06
    MV429: calls $0.06
    foodcoorner: folds
    TopPoplavok: folds
    valerossipma: folds
    *** FLOP *** [5c 2d 7d]
    mypokerphd: bets $0.06
    MV429: raises $0.37 to $0.43 and is all-in
    mypokerphd: folds
    Uncalled bet ($0.37) returned to MV429
    MV429 collected $0.26 from pot
    MV429: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $0.27 | Rake $0.01
    Board [5c 2d 7d]
    Seat 1: foodcoorner (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: TopPoplavok (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: valerossipma (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: akinoshima folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: mypokerphd folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: MV429 collected ($0.26)
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