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02-18-2011 , 09:35 PM
Full Tilt Poker $11 + $1 Rush On Demand No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1200/t2400 Blinds + t300 - 4 players
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BTN: t56994 M = 11.87
SB: t39378 M = 8.20
Hero (BB): t49454 M = 10.30
CO: t29189 M = 6.08

Pre Flop: (t4800) Hero is BB with A K
1 fold, BTN raises to t4800, SB raises to t7200, Hero

What range do you give SB here?

11 players left

Last edited by Okerchamp; 02-18-2011 at 09:41 PM.
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02-18-2011 , 09:56 PM
I have a hard time putting tards on a range so I'm not gonna try, but this is a pretty clear spot to wager all of your betting discs.
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02-18-2011 , 11:38 PM
Anyone who min-raises in the sb to a btn raise is obviously terribad and has the donk range. Shove
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02-19-2011 , 12:51 AM
yeah this seems like a pretty good spot to ship it on in there.. agree with min raisin from sb with is ******ed..

i would put him on a small pair most of the time.. hopin ur on a steal attempt close to ft bubble and the minsy will just take it down...

u might be behind but i think ur all too happy to be getting it in here..
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02-19-2011 , 01:47 AM
just shove it.
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02-19-2011 , 02:32 AM
just too shallow to do anything but ship. 40bb deep we could discuss.

this is a spot itt I have issues with. we "seem" deep but we just aren't. its 20bb in nlhe with AK. nothing else is even close.
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02-19-2011 , 05:12 AM
LOL thread
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02-19-2011 , 07:02 AM
Wat? YOu has the ace and the king....who cares what his range is? Folding would be absurd.
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02-19-2011 , 07:36 AM
It's just one of those spots where you look at his stacksize and his raise. Thinks that it doesn't make any sense with other hands than QQKKAA. Then you ships in AK and he shows you exactly what you expectet.

I know people makes plays than doesn't make any sense but ya... I just wasn't happy when I shoved it in.

Had he just shoved I would snapcall him and high five the world.
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02-21-2011 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Okerchamp
It's just one of those spots where you look at his stacksize and his raise. Thinks that it doesn't make any sense with other hands than QQKKAA. Then you ships in AK and he shows you exactly what you expectet.

I know people makes plays than doesn't make any sense but ya... I just wasn't happy when I shoved it in.

Had he just shoved I would snapcall him and high five the world.
Fish don't understand stack sizes and bet sizing. He can easily have AJs/KQ type crap too. Yeah, those are in it but I don't think this is a time to have MUBS.
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02-21-2011 , 03:49 AM
obv it matters what their ranges are, so some advice here ITT is pretty bad...

since we have no idea what their ranges are its a shove tho
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02-21-2011 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TID!
I see the hand part of the thread...

I see the part where you put the range as exactly 3 hands...

I must have missed the part where you told us you have 200 hands on SB and he is running 12/10 with 3% 3betting..and so could somehow ascribe that range to that particular player in an 11 donkament.

What you really should do:

Spoiler:
Fist pump>swig the Arizona Ice Tea>wagerchips>profit!!!
Got to admit, the swig Arizona Ice tea part made me laugh. I hate thinking of ranges for randoms in these spots as it can either be a really dumb range or really nutted. But w/o solid reads I don't think we can let this one go.
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02-21-2011 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Strife
I have a hard time putting tards on a range so I'm not gonna try, but this is a pretty clear spot to wager all of your betting discs.
pretty much this.
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02-21-2011 , 11:54 AM
SB could have just misclicked and was trying to shove if you didn't have a read on him. I would go all in here and hope for the best.
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02-21-2011 , 12:34 PM
I must admit I was pretty tilted after finishing 10th or 11th 4 times in a row.

And 50k is enough to own the FT so it kinda sucks to lose here

But ya.. what the hell, I will shove it next time too.

cheers
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02-21-2011 , 01:07 PM
thing is the hand you have contains blockers to his bladed range and that alone increases the frequency that he raise folds or calls with worse / something your flipping with
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