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 250k: Nut flush on river on paired board  250k: Nut flush on river on paired board

08-22-2010 , 03:42 PM
villain has been loose, called an UTG open from SB with K7o

so do I go for more value on this river or just call?


Poker Stars $10+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: t2980 149 BBs
BB: t2960 148 BBs
UTG: t2960 148 BBs
UTG+1: t3170 158.50 BBs
UTG+2: t2980 149 BBs
MP1: t3380 169 BBs
MP2: t2570 128.50 BBs
Hero (CO): t2810 140.50 BBs
BTN: t2860 143 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is CO with A 4
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, Hero calls t20, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: (t110) Q Q T (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t80, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t80, MP2 folds

Turn: (t270) K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: (t270) 8 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets t200, MP1 raises to t400, Hero?
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08-22-2010 , 03:51 PM
999/ call
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08-22-2010 , 05:14 PM
jam ainec
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08-22-2010 , 05:33 PM
i think i raise it to 1200/call shove
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08-22-2010 , 05:37 PM
I dunno I'm inclined to just call or even raise/fold given his slowplay-ey looking line.
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08-22-2010 , 07:09 PM
definitely not looking to get a stack in here.

tbh i probably call.
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08-23-2010 , 02:08 AM
i think its ok to stack off because its the 250k
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08-23-2010 , 02:45 AM
call his river c/r, no real value in raising (if he called a shove or whatever with a lower flush good for you )

might just bet the turn as well.
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08-23-2010 , 03:34 AM
I think it's closer to a raise / fold than it is to a raise / call
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08-23-2010 , 04:41 AM
bet the turn to fold out Tx, as played seems like an easy call given the paired board (and much less likely straight flush), what are we hoping to get value from on this board by raising? when a fish check-min-raises they're usually making a really bad value bet with a really strong hand!
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08-23-2010 , 04:45 AM
I still think he has AJ J9 & worse flushes in his range that he can call with and that's more likely that boats given how the hand played out.
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08-23-2010 , 07:52 AM
raise again imo
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08-23-2010 , 08:38 AM
surprised to see the tight villan range from many.

Random fish given the reads we'll get value from a lot more imo. So many overestimate their "value hands" and cant accept winning so little from a flopped hand/hit hand.

If villain fold worse on a reraise he does not raise with worse to the bet. Think you have to take villain for much wider and someone who would raise you with worse.

Extract some more value and come over.
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08-23-2010 , 08:52 AM
why would he min c/r the river spade? i just call.
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08-23-2010 , 10:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dereds
I think it's closer to a raise / fold than it is to a raise / call
Yes definately.

Id prob go like 922/f
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08-23-2010 , 10:23 AM
Raise fold. Calling a jam would be thin at best.
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08-23-2010 , 10:28 AM
easy stacking in that event!
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08-23-2010 , 10:34 AM
~900/f is prolly costful if you account for the times you completely wreck your computer and eat your mouse when villain shows you the K high flush

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08-23-2010 , 11:14 AM
If we re-raise, I think you have to be willing to call it off in this tournament full of button clickers. I'd probably just call, but there are merits in extracting more value as long as you are willing to call it off, since r/f exposes us to folding the best hand occasionally.
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08-23-2010 , 11:16 AM
first level im just calling here even though u could shove for value and get called by aq even though i would think he would open preflop with aq so i doubt he has but could be qt of aj that ur getting called by but since its just 1st level im just calling even though its the quarter and people love to spew
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