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01-27-2010 , 12:55 AM

jjyykk

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I'm UTG at this table with six players remaining.

I want TLBs and don't care *that* much about equity so just as a straight +cev push, and assuming the bigger stacks are calling 8% or so (66+, ATs+ which seems loose), how good/bad is this shove?

Poker Stars $11+$1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t300 - 6 players - View hand 498576
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

SB: t131926 M = 20.94
BB: t11112 M = 1.76
Hero (UTG): t40227 M = 6.39
MP: t9830 M = 1.56
CO: t49725 M = 7.89
BTN: t27180 M = 4.31

Pre Flop: (t6300) Hero is UTG with 7

Hero raises to t39927 all in

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01-27-2010 , 12:56 AM

D33P

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seems a good shove, me likes it.

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01-27-2010 , 01:16 AM

jchauvin

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seems to me like icm affects tlbs as well as prize money. just input TLBs won for each spot in place of the $ payout. i'm pretty sure following strict icm this will be a fold. definitely +cev tho

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01-27-2010 , 10:20 AM

furo

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

thats so standard, ICM is a bigger problem for the bigstack who is facing the shove

unless you know that the other bigstack does not care.

if they are good this is standard.

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01-27-2010 , 11:32 AM

JITxpert

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No problem for +cEV. Only a problem for ICM if one of the two bigger stacks call... I think TLBs run nonlinear, like prize money, so there are ICM effects on TLBs too...

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01-27-2010 , 11:38 AM

ccereal4e

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Originally Posted by furo

thats so standard, ICM is a bigger problem for the bigstack who is facing the shove

unless you know that the other bigstack does not care.

if they are good this is standard.

yea i def agree...but even if there not good is that really affecting the jam? i dont think so at this level...

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01-27-2010 , 11:40 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

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Originally Posted by ccereal4e

yea i def agree...but even if there not good is that really affecting the jam? i dont think so at this level...

if they play scared its obv good. but some villains flat raises so wide here and calling shoves with suited broadways A8o... not the kind of spot you want to be in.

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01-27-2010 , 12:15 PM

Lucksaster

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6handed I think its pretty basic open shove.

you might have 6,39m ( 36hands ) but when the blinds go up few hands later you'll be in bad condition. Shove now while the big stacks dont have to call you with atc.

It's so easy to get grinded down with 10-15xbb 6 handed or even when down to 5 handed.

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01-27-2010 , 12:23 PM

streetwalkincheeta

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I'd need a read to fold.I think that once we start openfolding 77 sixhanded with a little over 10bbs,we're just going to bleed chips a whole bunch.I can't imagine this being -$EV unless they call superwide.

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01-27-2010 , 06:28 PM

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rmfan31

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standard shove

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01-27-2010 , 06:40 PM

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Strife

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If they are playing scared then why not raise 2.25/call

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01-27-2010 , 06:42 PM

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jjyykk

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What I mean is I just want the tlb points for 1st/2nd for the year because hopefully (if I'm doing it right) all my other results will be higher.

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