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11-11-2009 , 07:15 AM
Full Tilt Poker $10 + $1 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 8 players
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UTG: t1650 M = 22
UTG+1: t1600 M = 21.33
MP1: t2495 M = 33.27
MP2: t1465 M = 19.53
CO: t1660 M = 22.13
BTN: t1150 M = 15.33
Hero (SB): t1760 M = 23.47
BB: t1720 M = 22.93

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is SB with A K
4 folds, CO calls t50, 1 fold, Hero raises to t150, 1 fold, CO calls t100

Flop: (t350) 3 Q 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: (t350) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t150, Hero raises to t500, CO folds

No reads on villian.
Where is the most +EV? Betting the turn, check-raising less, or check calling turn and river.
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11-11-2009 , 07:18 AM
200 pre, cbet flop imo. I don't mind checking the flop either though, reasons are there for both options. As played c/r turn is fine.
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11-11-2009 , 07:19 AM
raise to 200 pre, c-bet the flop. check/call the turn, lead out on the river. river bte should be for 60-75% of the pot and take your time on the turn call and the river bet to look more bluffish.
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11-11-2009 , 07:27 AM
I'm c-betting this 50-70% of the time but not this time.

Should I be c-betting this more often than that?
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11-11-2009 , 11:27 AM
200 pre
c-bet about 70% on flop
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11-11-2009 , 11:33 AM
Whether to cbet or not depends on villain, maybe some history...In general this flop has missed villain and the aggressor takes down the pot, so the cbet frequency should be at exactly 76% imo.
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11-11-2009 , 11:34 AM
my cbet frequency on this flop is exactly 82.67%

srsly tho, 200 pre, cbet flop
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11-11-2009 , 12:43 PM
I like the check here and I lead the turn.

Last edited by dereds; 11-11-2009 at 12:56 PM.
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11-11-2009 , 12:48 PM
C-bet that dryish flop 100% of the time imo. I would also lead the turn to prevent villain from checking behind to some bizzarrish strait or backdoor flush draw.
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11-11-2009 , 01:04 PM
C-betting this flop against a weak villain who has open limped the cutoff gets him to fold precisely 0 hands that we are ahead of and gets him to call with very few hands we beat. Even the hands we beat, 56s possibly A5s and A2s we are going to struggle with unless we are intending to barrel the turn.

So when all the hands we fold out we beat and those usually have between 6 and 3 outs on the flop, usually 6, we can continue to play the hand for value against his range by checking the flop.

I actually prefer check jamming here to betting
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11-11-2009 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dereds
I actually prefer check jamming here to betting
Fo serious?

I would C-bet this flop alot seeing as it is so dry. Line seems fine. Check raise on the turn is fine and so is a flat with a biggish bet on the river.
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11-11-2009 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iQDrSyko
Fo serious?

I would C-bet this flop alot seeing as it is so dry. Line seems fine. Check raise on the turn is fine and so is a flat with a biggish bet on the river.
absolutely.

The fact that the board is so dry means that villain is never raising a flop c-bet with a draw so we have to bet fold which of itself isn't necessarily a disaster unless you consider the times that he will bet worse if checked to and fold to a jam meaning we win a bigger pot when he bet folds than when he folds to a c-bet.

Also we generally have >25% equity when he calls our check jam unless he has a set and he is probably more likely to fold 55-88 to a check raise than he is to a c-bet which he peels with pretty much 100% of the time.
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11-11-2009 , 04:01 PM
I'd raise 200 pre,c-bet around 1/2 pot OTF and lead out OTT.
I don't think c/r OTT is bad though.
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