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9 I can't figure out wtf he could have 9 I can't figure out wtf he could have

01-30-2011 , 02:15 PM
9th hand, villain is 13/13 over 8 hands. I OPRed him on the river and he's got decent results.

River is obviously a blocker bet with the intention of folding, but then I started to think about it and couldn't figure out what he could possibly have for value... hands like 89hh I guess? On the other hand it's hard to imagine what he turned into a bluff.


Poker Stars $100+$9 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 8 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BTN: t3120 156 BBs
SB: t3040 152 BBs
BB: t3000 150 BBs
UTG: t3120 156 BBs
UTG+1: t3030 151.50 BBs
Hero (MP1): t2820 141 BBs
MP2: t3050 152.50 BBs
CO: t2940 147 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP1 with Q A
2 folds, Hero raises to t60, MP2 calls t60, 4 folds

Flop: (t150) 4 A 7 (2 players)
Hero bets t90, MP2 calls t90

Turn: (t330) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets t200, MP2 calls t200

River: (t730) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t300, MP2 raises to t1150, Hero folds
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01-30-2011 , 02:17 PM
I am on board with bet fold each street but I think the river should be a little large to remove the illusion that we are bet folding

as played fold is fine
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01-30-2011 , 02:29 PM
it looks pretty std and I think you played it well. Giving his line i agree with you that it looks kinda weird and im confused too. I actually dont think calling the river is terrible just because 89h, a weirdly played a8, 87 or 88 are the only hands that he would value raise really and I think he will occasionally turn some made hands into bluffs.
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01-30-2011 , 02:38 PM
check river!
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01-30-2011 , 02:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by phos77
check river!
Your post is missing a key ingredient.
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01-30-2011 , 02:42 PM
Couldn't he have 77? I can see 77 just calling on the flop and turn to keep AK or c-bettor putting money in the pot.

I also check-fold river.
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01-30-2011 , 02:43 PM
check/decide river! probably calling!

!
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01-30-2011 , 02:44 PM
I don't know, I considered checking. It was my first instinct honestly but I thought it was my inner nit taking over again.

More thoughts on betting vs checking please?
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01-30-2011 , 02:46 PM
well what are you getting value from? a 13/13 probably pitches ATo and AJo pre, not many combos left!

edit: 8 hands w/e, still think people pitch them pre mostly and may fold river anyway
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01-30-2011 , 02:51 PM
If we think he's mostly throwing away ATo and AJo then it becomes really hard to say I shouldn't call his raise on the river, no? What beats us unless he decided to just hold on with 88? Do sets really raise this river?

I don't think I'm getting value from much but the goal is to avoid facing a bigger bet when I check... right? I don't know, maybe I have this hand backwards.
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01-30-2011 , 03:06 PM
c/f turn
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01-30-2011 , 03:08 PM
lolwat
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01-30-2011 , 03:22 PM
I would check the river for sure and usually call. As played, I would still call. Never ever ever ever use that sizing against a competent player if you plan to fold. Blocking bets were good in 2004. "Blocking bets" that are actually inducers are good in 2011.
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01-30-2011 , 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck Bass
I would check the river for sure and usually call. As played, I would still call. Never ever ever ever use that sizing against a competent player if you plan to fold. Blocking bets were good in 2004. "Blocking bets" that are actually inducers are good in 2011.
this is exactly what i was thinking....block bets have morphed into induce bets and i think it actually changed somewhere around the fall of 2009

i can't figure out what he has either but i would call here as played and if i bet i would bet more but i would check the river and decide
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