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03-21-2008 , 04:27 PM
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Hero ($2,515)
BB ($3,100)
CO ($4,895)
Button ($9,490)

ANTES/BLINDS
Hero posts blind ($300), BB posts blind ($600).


PRE-FLOP : Hero has A T
CO bets $1,200, Button folds, Hero ?


He was minraising whole bubble and im not sure if he seriously considered folding some of those hands to big stack but question is do i wait more or get it in now. Nothing crazy about opponent seems average tight sng player.
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03-21-2008 , 05:40 PM
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Based on what you say I sure wouldn't fold.
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03-21-2008 , 05:49 PM
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I like shoving here. I'm looking to get my chips in ahead and this seems like a great opportunity. In next 2 hands the 2 big stacks will be in BB and can correctly call realllllllly wide getting better than 2 to 1 on a call that won't cripple them. Then I'm in the blinds and in trouble.
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03-21-2008 , 06:20 PM
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Shoving for sure, every time. Especially because he has been minraising often
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03-21-2008 , 06:46 PM
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I think it's a fold.

1) With the huge stack to his left, the CO/Villain needs a big hand here to enter the pot.

2) You've got zero fold equity.

3) A certain gamble for all your equity as either a small favorite or dominated dog.

It looks as though he likes his hand enough to gamble with the two shorter stacks but is leaving himself an out if the huge stack pushes over him.
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03-21-2008 , 07:22 PM
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I dont agree with folding i push here
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03-21-2008 , 07:28 PM
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Bud, we are not shoving to gain FE, we are shoving cos we think we are way ahead of his range, fold equity doesnt come into this. as OP said, he has been raising alot ignoring the big stack, so we can throw away that he is only doin this with hands he should be doing it with AK+ etc. I like to get it in here, AT is a good hand and we have 5 BBs and are the shortie. He is obviously a bad player if he is minraising with a big stack out there, and he would probably even fold some of the time because he has no idea.
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03-21-2008 , 07:50 PM
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PUSH!! his probably got K high
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03-21-2008 , 08:07 PM
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What did he have Q?
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03-21-2008 , 08:36 PM
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I folded? well it doesn't really matter. I agree with most, i don't think this is a fold because there wasn't something special about this hand compared to previous based on what u could put him on some strong range.
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03-21-2008 , 08:37 PM
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By "minraising whole bubble", do you mean (a) minraising every hand he could (like >50%) or (b) just minraising whenever he did raise, but less often (like 25%ish)? I'd be OK w/ getting it in if it's (a), but less so w/ (b).
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03-21-2008 , 08:41 PM
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Not sure about exact percent venetian but probably something between those, and yes never pushed or some other value other then minraise.

I think all in all spot is pretty marginal but since im shortest stack and we really don't have many hands to live i just can't see a fold with AT here.
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03-21-2008 , 08:42 PM
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I think the minraise is a attempt to steal the blinds but avoid a loss if the bigstack decides to use his stack, especially if this is a move he has been using often. It's kind of a 'scared' raise.

After you find that it works a few times, well then it makes sense.. why commit more chips when a minraise will take it down?
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