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03-11-2010 , 06:34 PM

LorenB

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some feels wrong here, he isn't 2bet that flop w/ trips much. i don't know, c/c flop instead?

Full Tilt Poker $33,000 KO Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t480 Blinds + t50 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP2: t23766 M = 20.14
CO: t20484 M = 17.36
BTN: t10532 M = 8.93
Hero (SB): t19505 M = 16.53
BB: t530 M = 0.45
UTG: t18056 M = 15.30
UTG+1: t41219 M = 34.93
UTG+2: t18890 M = 16.01
MP1: t37356 M = 31.66

Pre Flop: (t1180) Hero is SB with T

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t1500, 5 folds, Hero calls t1250

Flop: (t3930) K

(3 players)
Hero bets t2000, UTG+1 raises to t5000, Hero folds

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03-11-2010 , 10:34 PM

LorenB

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thoughts?

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03-11-2010 , 10:55 PM

ok1989

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I play much lower stakes but donking flop seems bad since it's not for value;c/cing seems better since it keeps more air bluffs into his range (he might cbet the great majority of his range in this flop);this is probably a WA/WB situation.

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03-11-2010 , 11:07 PM

Willyoman

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Well I don't fold. Given stacks, calling seems kinda meh as you'll have less than a PSB left, and your flat will look extremely strong.

I probably jam.

Agree with you that people don't raise the flop with trips.

People also don't 3-bet jam with trips, so maybe you can 3-bet jam for value.

Reverse yeti theorem anyone?

I think worse hands will call, especially given stacks. And a jam looks weaker than a call. And yes, he'll snap you off with better hands, too, but I think there's value, and it's not the end of the world if he folds his air with overs.

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03-11-2010 , 11:27 PM

Aces Suited

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Bet/shove couldn't be that bad...

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03-11-2010 , 11:48 PM

Mason00

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I happily get it in here. This is one of the better flops for 10s

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03-12-2010 , 12:24 AM

nikohl

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If he's solid his range is KQs, AJ, AQ, AK, and all pairs 99s and above (maybe 88 too but it's unlikely since an 8 came out). Basically, you're beatin AJ, AQ and 99. Why not just call and see what happens on the turn? If he's solid, he may very well slow it down and check till the end. I might need QQs here to push, probably slow it down a bit more with less.

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03-12-2010 , 12:56 AM

LorenB

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ya, i actually don't think jamming is that bad. I'd assume he'd try to control the pot w/ AA,QQ and also not play Kx so fast. So I doubt he has better often at all. but i still doubt he calls worse too often.

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03-12-2010 , 08:22 AM

furo

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BB being AI tightens UTGs prefloprange here a bit for open. so i dont mind the flat.

i prob c/c as i would with Kx and fold OTT if he bets again expecting him to be strong here

as played bet/fold obv

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03-12-2010 , 10:07 AM

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dereds

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Originally Posted by furo

BB being AI tightens UTGs prefloprange here a bit for open. so i dont mind the flat.

This is a reason why it's profitable to open slightly lighter here tho obv your image can be shot to pieces if you open too wide though doubt many in a 24+2 are paying attention.

I am looking to get it in pre tbh and failing that just don't fold now,

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03-12-2010 , 10:59 AM

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donkontilt4u

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Villain looks to have JJ, QQ, AA, AK here. I fold to the flop raise.

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03-12-2010 , 09:23 PM

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LorenB

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villian raised w/ A6s

wtf?

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03-12-2010 , 10:01 PM

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dereds

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he's never expecting you to lead a king and if you fold everything thats not Kx or 88 it's going to show a profit?

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03-12-2010 , 10:11 PM

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SGT RJ

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I raise a K here just because no one expects it.

But that said, yeah, this is the perfect board for villain to use his position to bully you off the best hand. Shove seems pretty standard unless read on villain lets you know he wouldn't do it without the nuts.

I probably c/c this flop, but as played b/shove seems sexy.

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03-12-2010 , 11:27 PM

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Jiggymike

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I would c/c this flop, probably not folding unless the board runs out terribly. Bet/3bet probably doesn't get us max value since we're going to fold out a lot of hands we beat.

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03-12-2010 , 11:34 PM

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AngryJohnny

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Originally Posted by dereds

I am looking to get it in pre tbh and failing that just don't fold now,

Not much to add to thread, was thinking the same. Seems like decent odds for jamming agaisnt a reasonable range I think. Trips seldom raises this flop unless they are me and are really trying to cornfuse you.

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