Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 20/40 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 12,453 (VPIP: 23.74, PFR: 15.91, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 139)
UTG+1: 10,089 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
MP: 9,089 (VPIP: 22.50, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 40)
CO: 9,074 (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
BTN: 9,610 (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 17)
SB: 8,658 (VPIP: 23.54, PFR: 16.71, 3Bet Preflop: 8.99, Hands: 414)
Hero (BB): 10,918

SB posts SB 20, Hero posts BB 40

Pre Flop: (pot: 60) Hero has 3 3

fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 80, fold, Hero calls 40

Flop: (180, 2 players) 3 J 5
Hero checks, BTN bets 80, Hero raises to 245, BTN raises to 680, Hero calls 435

Turn: (1,540, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (1,540, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,160, Hero raises to 2,480, BTN raises to 8,850 and is all-in, Hero?

I think I would keep raising on the flop. Why no 4-bet? Were you thinking he might fold, and you wouldn't get any more?

turn is like the worst card for you, meh.

River, never folding, NH GG

Sick. But what bluffs does he even have given this line? Really struggling to come up with any given flop 3b (AsAx would be godawful, maybe somehow J5s?). Don't think we beat any value whatsoever 200+bb deep. Folding the 2nd best hand we can possibly have here is pretty exploitable but it just looks like he's always got us outsetted otf right?

You always have such fishy lines. C/r flop cause you have a set. Check turn cause flush card hits. C/r river cause you have a boat.

You can lead flop. We played keep raising flop and unlucky if he's got it. Way too much nonsense in this tourney to make tight folds first level of a million reentry levels.

Won't stack off 250 bigs otf w/ bottom set.
Bet river youself.
Fold as played ofc.

I'm struggling to find a hand he 3bets flop with, checks turn with and will then call a river c/r that is worse than ours. He's not slowplaying a flush on the turn to then go bananas when the board pairs... looks like JJ/55 every time to me.

this

checkraising river, esp to that sizing is rly bad

I don't see how c/r this flop is that fishy. I'd do this with SDs and FDs too. What's ur flop leading range look like BB vs BTN?

Obviously once I take this flop line I'm not leading the flush turn. Otr I was debating a lead, but I figured A high flushes and overpairs bet river giving me a chance to extract slightly more value.

Seems reasonable, donking flop and donking turn as played seems more fishy to me.After he checks back turn id just bet/call river

Why do you think it's really bad?

Why do you think it's good? What hands is he valuebetting? He can't really have a worse boat than you and he'd almost always bet a flush on the turn if he was semibluffing on the flop. After he 3bets the flop your hand is a (very strong) bluffcatcher.

I guess I just felt it was too weak to just check/call otr with a boat at the time. I ended up folding to the 3-bet shove FWIW.

Would you prefer a big lead otr or just a check/call? Do we fold to a raise if we lead big on the river?

this is why ur cashier is empty

agree with the above notions that x/r river is bad.

The reason for this is how does a worse hand call our x/r? As Soepgroente mentioned he almost always is betting the flush ott if he decides to 3b semibluff it otf. I doubt he would miss a street of value and risk a 4 card flush peeling if he has medium to small flush ott.

You said that an ace high flush or overpair would bet river. Over pair is not v betting river imo, the flush and the board paired after you called a 3b otf.

Also a flush draw is much more often flatting your x/r otf then 3b it risking being blown off equity. This combined with the fact that he checked the turn through makes it look like v doesn't often have a flush.

So if overpair is checking behind river and v doesn't often have a flush then river is a clear b/c imo. At least we can cap the river to x2 bets with this line not x3 by going for a x/r.

soep explained rly well why checkraising river is s bad idea.

id lead river after the turn checked through. its actually a pretty strong line by us and we are at the bottom of our vbetting range which is why i think b/f is very reasonable. to sum it up you have a rly strong bluffcatcher on every single street but not a hand you would want to get 200bbs in with, not on the flop, turn or river.

Again, his flop 3bet range should mostly be hands stronger than ours and bluffs. I don't think leading makes much sense, he will usually fold if we had him and raise if he made a better hand, and the candidates in between like bluffs that made a hand (A2x, etc) will probably valuebet themselves when we check to him twice but not call a c/r anyway. He has such a big range advantage here when ranges get really narrow and we 3bet pre with JJ, we should probably check most if not all hands on the river.

x/r otf is fine, i´ll choose a bigger sizing tho and bet turn and river myself.
I don´t hate your line, esp ott, but i will def bet/f river or x/c. (x/r is to thin imo)