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03-17-2010 , 02:37 AM
Borgata, 10 handed, $100+$20, Blinds 200/400

I think my range is polarized here. Villain is new to me but he seems pretty competent, a solid TAG. I don't think this is ever a bluff by villain hardly. I can either raise or fold in this spot. What would you do here?

Hero (BTN): 12,500t
Villain (SB): 24,000t

Hero is on the Button with AQ

Preflop:
5 folds, HJ Calls 400, CO Calls 400, Hero Raises to 1600, SB Re-Raises to 7,075, 3 Folds, Hero????

Now I am leaning towards folding because since I feel like this is hardly ever a bluff most of villains range has me at an awkward spot. I feel like I am ahead of nothing. If I put villain on a range of 99+, AQ & AK, I am either flipping or getting crushed. Is the correct move to fold here? I haven't made a soul read on villain here so don't know if this is the rare time that he bluffs in this spot in a blue moon. I can't think that his hand is air.
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03-17-2010 , 03:02 AM
Given stacks, and assuming he's a thinking player, he's committed to your shove should you choose to do so. I mean, he's calling 7,025 into a +/- 21,000 pot post-shove. Even his weak/semi-weak bluff holdings have decent equity to call off unless he can narrow your range to only absolute premiums...

Let's assume he has AK and puts you post-reship @ QQ+, AKs, he still has 37.7% against your range and is now getting 2.98:1 on the call. Basically, I don't you think you have any fold equity when you 4-ram it in the middle.

Last edited by DaWookie; 03-17-2010 at 03:08 AM.
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03-17-2010 , 03:04 AM
I'd say that's a good fold.
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03-17-2010 , 06:29 AM
$100 + $20 ?????!!!!!!!

yeah looks like a fold probably
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03-17-2010 , 08:41 AM
I wouldn't even raise this with HJ limping. I'd limp also. As played, i really think you are way behind, HJ's plan worked. Fold, make mental note.
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03-17-2010 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by freakBYnature
I wouldn't even raise this with HJ limping. I'd limp also. As played, i really think you are way behind, HJ's plan worked. Fold, make mental note.
HJs plan was to limp/fold? ok his plan worked perfectly...


iso/fold vs the 3better is fine imo
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03-17-2010 , 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by furo
HJs plan was to limp/fold? ok his plan worked perfectly...


iso/fold vs the 3better is fine imo
exactly this vs almost anyone
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03-17-2010 , 10:10 AM
Goddamnit I feel stupid for misreading this. I'd fold pre though, I don't know it's a leak or not, but I don't like jeopardizing myself this late with this weak hand unless I am first to act. And for whatever it's worth, HJ didn't fold to "our" raise, he folded to the 3bet SB. Even with position, this is spewing latestage chips with the limper involved IMHO. Right or wrong, it's how I see it
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03-17-2010 , 10:13 AM
if you are not raising pre the first time you are playing way too tight, probably folding to the 3bet but it kinda depends
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03-17-2010 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dereds
if you are not raising pre the first time you are playing way too tight, probably folding to the 3bet but it kinda depends
depends on how much time each level is, limp HJ is so trappy. If I got 10min or more for each blind I'll just fold. I dont think it's to tight, it's a sitngo right? Final table play for me.
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03-18-2010 , 04:09 AM
not really big hands very rarely limp the HJ and while some of his limping range may be big the majority of it is FoS
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