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10-17-2009 , 09:10 PM

vadiupoker

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 10.8 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds 5 Ante (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 (t940)
CO (t1425)
Button (t3515)
SB (t3160)
BB (t1740)
UTG (t1390)
Hero (UTG+1) (t1420)
MP1 (t1410)

Hero's M: 12.35

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A

, K

1 fold, Hero bets t150, 4 folds, SB calls t125, BB calls t100

Flop: (t490) 5

, 8

(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t400, 1 fold, BB calls t400

Turn: (t1290) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t865 (All-In), BB calls t865

River: (t3020) J

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t3020

Ok the way tha this hand was played?

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10-17-2009 , 09:13 PM

TwistedEcho

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No need to bet so big if you are cbetting, you don't fold out anything w/ 400 that 250-300 doesn't fold out.

I probably don't even cbet here in a DON

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10-17-2009 , 09:15 PM

vadiupoker

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simmilar one:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 10.8 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (10 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (Button) (t1565)
SB (t2175)
BB (t1430)
UTG (t1210)
UTG+1 (t1255)
UTG+2 (t1520)
MP1 (t1840)
MP2 (t1515)
MP3 (t1375)
CO (t1115)

Hero's M: 20.87

Preflop: Hero is Button with A

, K

3 folds, MP1 bets t90, 3 folds, Hero calls t90, 3 folds, Hero raises to t150, 4 folds, (unknown) calls t125 (All-In), Coper84 calls t100 (All-In)

Flop: (t485) 5

, 8

(4 players, 2 all-in)
MP1 bets t120, Hero calls t120, nailuj79 checks, Coper84 checks, Hero bets t400, 1 fold, Coper84 calls t400 (All-In)

Turn: (t1525) 5

(3 players, 5 all-in)
MP1 checks, Hero bets t150, MP1 calls t150, Coper84 checks, Hero bets t865 (All-In), Coper84 calls t865 (All-In)

River: (t3555) J

(3 players, 8 all-in)
MP1 bets t330, Hero raises to t750 (All-In), MP1 calls t420

Total pot: t5055

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10-18-2009 , 03:28 AM

pocket_pear

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In these two hands, you have the exact same hand and the board is exactly the same ???

1st hand, I cbet at 270 and give up on the turn.

HH in 2d hand doesn't make any sense...

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10-18-2009 , 07:50 AM

malloc

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AKo is a drawing hand, not a made hand. Stop being super aggro with it.

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10-18-2009 , 09:50 AM

rakes

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Originally Posted by malloc

AKo is a drawing hand, not a made hand. Stop being super aggro with it.

is this sarcasm?

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10-18-2009 , 09:51 AM

rakes

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,695

on hand 1, it's much better to cbet smaller as TE have started. I'd def double barrel in a SNG unless I have some godly read on them. esp in a DON. it calls for super nit play postflop

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10-18-2009 , 12:11 PM

KingDino

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I think I'd c-bet once since you raised from UTG + 1, but it's still a 3-way pot and you didn't hit, so it might even be a leak to c-bet this flop when you miss with AK. When they call the flop bet, I think you should give up since your equity is probably close to 12.5% on the turn, unless you're up against a complete donkey.

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10-18-2009 , 01:37 PM

vadiupoker

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Originally Posted by pocket_pear

In these two hands, you have the exact same hand and the board is exactly the same ???

1st hand, I cbet at 270 and give up on the turn.

HH in 2d hand doesn't make any sense...

OMFG!!!!!

I DID NOT REALIZED IT!

What r the odds???

my god

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10-18-2009 , 02:18 PM

#10

KingDino

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Originally Posted by TwistedEcho

No need to bet so big if you are cbetting, you don't fold out anything w/ 400 that 250-300 doesn't fold out.

I probably don't even cbet here in a DON

I agree with you, but when they both check, I think it's ok to c-bet once with a hand as strong as AK, since we can take the pot down early with a decent frequency. I'm giving up after the flop bet though.

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10-18-2009 , 03:43 PM

#11

rakes

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Originally Posted by rakes

on hand 1, it's much better to cbet smaller as TE have started. I'd def double barrel in a SNG unless I have some godly read on them. esp in a DON. it calls for super nit play postflop

opps. what i meant to say is i'd def NOT fire the 2nd bullet

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10-18-2009 , 03:48 PM

#12

KingDino

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Originally Posted by rakes

opps. what i meant to say is i'd def NOT fire the 2nd bullet

Yeah double barrelling is suicidal in this situation unless you are sure they fold. Your equity on the turn is probably 12% at best, so it's pretty easy to check/fold after they call the flop.

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10-18-2009 , 04:51 PM

#13

Angribob

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eerrrr. 2nd hand is clearly fabricated since there are obvious errors in the HH.

For the 1st hand - I don't see much point in c-betting here.

VS 1 player i c-bet all day long but against 2 i dont bother often, Peel

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10-18-2009 , 11:39 PM

#14

vadiupoker

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Originally Posted by Angribob

very strange indeed, i guess it was some sort of crtl c crtl v error. Sorry

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10-19-2009 , 12:57 AM

#15

realestate

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dont even play ak first three levels especially utg

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10-19-2009 , 01:08 PM

#16

vadiupoker

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Originally Posted by realestate

dont even play ak first three levels especially utg

wow sems nice, not even on a non turbo don?

can u elaborate pls?

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10-19-2009 , 01:33 PM

#17

chris_k14

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 521

AK in DoN is nowhere near strong enough to Double Barrel this. I wouldn't even cbet this flop 3way that early in these tourns. Save your money and look for better spots to get your chips. In the Stars ones you cans accumulate alot just by stealing. No need to get crazy here.

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