I try and keep out of pots like this, but both original raiser and caller have been very active (I don't use a hud so no spasific info) there are still 65 players left and the game pays 30.

I ran it through stove giving both players any pp & any broadway


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

28,569,114 games 0.180 secs 158,717,300 games/sec

Board: 9c 3h Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.462% 31.89% 00.57% 9110588 163599.67 { Th8h }
Hand 1: 33.769% 32.44% 01.33% 9268524 378939.17 { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 2: 33.769% 32.44% 01.33% 9268524 378939.17 { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }


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Looks like i have a bout 33% equity Call?



[converted_hand][hand_history]Full Tilt, 120/240 blinds, 25 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15546611

BTN: 8,265 (34.4 bb)
SB: 15,939 (66.4 bb)
Hero (BB): 6,448 (26.9 bb)
UTG+2: 4,901 (20.4 bb)
MP1: 6,437 (26.8 bb)
MP2: 9,240 (38.5 bb)
MP3: 7,084 (29.5 bb)
CO: 11,544 (48.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 T
3 folds, MP3 raises to 480, CO calls 480, BTN folds, SB calls 360, Hero calls 240

Flop: (2,120) 9 3 J (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets 1,120, CO calls 1,120, SB folds HERO ?

If there weren't two clubs I'd be jamming for sure, as played, probably jamming.

Also, I don't understand your post, you ran it through stove as if you were all in. There are plenty of chips to still be played in this hand, no? Are you assuming if you jam both call or that if you call you'll see a showdown with no more money going in?

folding as your outs can be tainted with the flush draw out there and 2 villians in the hand.

Tricky one, I think all options are viable not sure what's best. I sometimes donk smallish in these spots to get a cheap turn. People tend not to fold to c/s anymore.

That stove stuff is useless. The person calling on the flop doesn't have 55 or ATo. It's a 4way pot, two people have shown interest in the hand postflop, and we have 10 high with six to eight outs. Shoving is horrible because there's almost no way we get both players to fold, and if we get called we're in disastrous shape. And if we make our draw, we don't want to be heads up anyway - we want both people in the pot. I think calling here to see a turn is about EV-neutral, assuming you'll win a stack on turns that make your hand, and fold otherwise. But I'd rather save my chips.