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 18man stars. poss FD got there  18man stars. poss FD got there

07-07-2008 , 06:30 AM
Villain is 24/8/0.6 - small sample

I could use a full line check here. I think I lose alot of value denying the odds every time theres 2 suits on board. Is that something I should only be thinking about HU and not multiway?
Is there a system you guys use for determining when to deny the odds for the FD with (say) 2 clubs on board and when to let them see that next card. I get stuck here alot. Especially if I have one of the suit.

Also, as played is this a call, fold, other?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t1895)
Button (t2020)
Hero (t2690)
BB (t1485)
UTG (t1955)
MP (t1735)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, A.
1 fold, MP calls t50, CO calls t50, 1 fold, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t200) 4, 5, 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t50, MP calls t50, CO calls t50, Hero calls t50.

Turn: (t400) 4 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets t50, CO calls t50, Hero raises to t400, BB folds, MP folds, CO calls t350.

River: (t1250) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t500, Hero ?

thanks
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07-07-2008 , 08:48 AM
c/r flop to t250 at least. you need to give everyone bad odds for a call. so it would be 200/ 200 (pre) + 150 (flop b/c`s) + 250 = 200/600 which is bad direct odds for everyone drawing to a flush or a boat. however i'd go for t300. c/c flop is a mistake here.

as played i'd lead turn for t300. a 4 could well be in villain's ranges and will stack us pretty likely. also there's no guarantee someone will bet from the minimal flop action and there are plenty of cards you don't wanna see on the river. protect imo. also your raise is okay, i'd prefer a ps raise after all.

river is an awful card for you. at best you split with another 3, looks more like CO got his flush to me. it's a board that's tough to bluff so he will have it many times...idk, i fold there too.

your aim should be to get it in against tp's and all kinds of draws as a favourite, thus play the 2nd nuts aggressively for value and protection.
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