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10-09-2008 , 06:56 PM

pintoelbajon

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 825

was this an easy fold? I think the best case scenario would be a coinflip

thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 200/400 Blinds (5 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t3950)
SB (t1435)
Hero (BB) (t5150)
UTG (t5585)
MP (t3880)

Hero's M: 8.58

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, K

UTG raises t2000, 4 folds

Total pot: t1000

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10-09-2008 , 07:01 PM

Hood

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Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 6,895

Why are you discounting AKo, AK-Awhatever, and other broadways? + fold equity and it looks to me an insta-reship.

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10-09-2008 , 07:01 PM

Glitlr

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,682

It's difficult b/c villian is utg and he has you covered. However, there are not enough really low stacks to make this really bad. I'm leaning towards call, although there are not many hands I'd call with here. I'm thinking like 99+AK. If one of the 3800ish stacks was way lower this could be a fold.

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10-09-2008 , 07:02 PM

Glitlr

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whoa, thought he moved in preflop. edit: I'm leaning toward SHIP.

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10-09-2008 , 07:15 PM

pintoelbajon

adept

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I posted It cuz I run it through sng wiz and It said Fold, but I really think it could be a reship... still not quite sure

Besides what caught my attention was that he was commited against any other player but me, So Why woudl he raise 5bb instead of shoving pre?

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10-09-2008 , 09:12 PM

neal41835

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 867

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Originally Posted by pintoelbajon

Besides what caught my attention was that he was commited against any other player but me, So Why woudl he raise 5bb instead of shoving pre?

That's what I was wondering. I figure its a 80% likely hood of flipaments 99, 1010, 88 something like that (mid pp).
10% he has AA, KK, MAYBE QQs (but QQ is still flipament)
10% he has AQ, AJ, A10.

I am saying high likelyhood of mid pp cuz of 5x raise (which at your stake SNGs, I noticed a lot of times thats how mid pps play).

I say call and see flop (any K or A on flop, x/shove or x/call his shove).

Call you can safely leave with 3100, I think its the best play, but shoving in isn't terrible either.

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10-09-2008 , 11:33 PM

juandadi

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shove, and expect a fold from small pocket pairs. and flip and pray for to win against QQ

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10-10-2008 , 12:18 AM

drzen

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Just fold.

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10-10-2008 , 01:30 AM

pintoelbajon

adept

Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 825

Yep Folded Seem pretty gay, but Still I didn`t feel like going for a flip that deep

I`d like to hear some from those Who think I should have reshoved and why cuz this particular hand was pretty tough and still I`m not sure If folding was the right choice

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10-10-2008 , 01:46 AM

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juandadi

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Originally Posted by pintoelbajon

I`d like to hear some from those Who think I should have reshoved and why cuz this particular hand was pretty tough and still I`m not sure If folding was the right choice

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Originally Posted by juandadi

shove, and expect a fold from small pocket pairs. and flip and pray for to win against QQ

and get called as well by AQ or AJ

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10-10-2008 , 03:22 AM

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SengioKang

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Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 285

utg is the new cutoff

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10-10-2008 , 04:02 AM

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snwbrdngpoo

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 188

Push. Are you joking? Who cares if it's a flip. It could be AJ,AQ,KQ. Just ship it.

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10-10-2008 , 09:04 AM

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Hood

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Originally Posted by drzen

Just fold.

Have you run this? Any ranges with some fold equity (say 11/7, 9/6) it's good.

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