45 man turbo
Poker Stars $1.00+$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t200/t400 Blinds - 5 players
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CO: t7005
Hero (BTN): t4915
SB: t4430
BB: t5494
UTG: t14345

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with 9 A
UTG calls t400, Hero ?

limper is 55/0 and and went on to limp all the way up to t1200 lol. obv if folded to me this is an insta ship, but is A9o strong enough to shove over the limper? after seeing them fold NUMEROUS times after limping in later rounds i wish i would have shipped it in here. what if the limper didn't have such loose stats...i have a feeling sng wiz would have this as a fold given most opening ranges. what is the bottom of our range for shoving over a limper from the button? thanks.

Shove !
do u know how he reacted before to raises ? Was he limp calling quit often ?
limp folding often :, I push a wide range there ; any PP any ,any 2 broadway2 , and 78s+ ,Ax , Kxs

Im probably wrong but I would think A9o would be at the bottom of the range for pushing over this limper.

Too nitty?

seems just about right, especially with the blinds still in it, although they have enough chips to play for a while too. I do shove KJ+ and QJ and a bunch of pairs too though.

okay thanks...that's about the range i was thinking too.


just_me_but......
there hadn't been a spot yet where he had been shoved on after one of his limps but he had called a few raises. after folding this hand the sb raised huge and he folded, then i saw him limp fold a preposterously spewy number of times after that too. 78s here...really? interesting. i'm all about abusing the final table bubble which this was.

78s is a very light shove , I would do it if:
1. Vilian is limpfolding often
2. Ur Image is tight
3. He knows ur Image

so its a 2.5 BB blindsteal then ...

In these spots I first examine whether or not I would openpush in this spot. Pretty clear yes here.

Now given your reads on the high blind limper from UTG I lower my shoving range for two reasons.

1. The blinds see two active players so they are more cautious about their calling ranges. Thus we're getting two folds more often than without UTG's limp, esp. cause he can bust them too.

2. UTG juices up the pot for us with a hand range we're ahead of. This goes hand in hand with the less equity we need to make our shove ev+, as there's 1bb more in the pot.

i'm not sure how much these $1 players take note but i shove quite frequently near bubble time so i don't think i have a super tight image. HOWEVER they will probably still fold a large percentage of the time because they're so desperate to "just make the money" this is definitely the time where i accumulate most of my stack due to everyones tightness so perhaps i can open up my range a bit wider. i will experiment.

got it...obv this is an insta ship from now on! thanks guys.

your image has nothing to do with anything, in a dollar tourney...theres no way anyone has a clue what anyone else is doing. this is a value shove imo as long as the blinds dont wake up with hands.

areaman i agree. i'm pretty sure i make up a minuscule percentage of $1 tourney players running PAHUD, making notes, checking opr/sharkcope stats, posting on 2+2, etc lol. even if someone was astute enough to notice i'd been shoving often i doubt they'd loosen their calling range significantly for fear of bubbling and not making the $1.