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05-09-2013 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by choochoohead
Since its reguated and legal I assume we will be taxed when we cash out.
Is this the case and if so at what rate will we be taxed?
You will not have taxes withheld when you cashout, and the only reporting we do is if you win greater than $5k in a tournament or more than $600 over the course of a calendar year in promotional tournaments (freerolls).

We've attempted to structure our tournaments in such a way that this literally impacts no one (and over time, probably only the single first place winner of the weekly Sunday major).
05-09-2013 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hi Hater
Any suggestions for the players having location verification issues other than having to buy a phone? Fwiw I received a text and replied and also received a confirmation I think. Also made a deposit and it has been deducted from my bank but can't play.

Being informed about the issue before allowing me to deposit would have been appreciated.

Regardless, thanks for breaking the barrier for U.S. Gambling
1) You might try calling your ISP to see if they're bouncing your IP off of out-of-state locations and see if they can avoid this. I know some people are getting bounced to Scottsdale, AZ which is causing the location verification to fail.

2) Just hang tight. We're improving the location services on our end every day in small ways.
05-09-2013 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungOlehead
I believe they are required by the commission to use two methods of location verification
As I said, it works for the sports book. It's a special capability available only through cox broadband.
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Originally Posted by Scottyy
Just wait until Monday, some good news may be coming.

Scott
Fing tease.
05-09-2013 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Almost_Famous
I tried that and then restarted both the computer and the phone just to try that and no luck =/
Yeah.. No real advice other than to try again. We're making lots of changes on a daily basis, and it might be your phone or your IP. For those on the "close to 16 second" time for location lookup, it might just be that you'll have to try again a handful of times until you get location verified.
05-09-2013 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Tomorrow is the big day they launch all the daily tournaments(according to what Dax or Scotty said several days ago) Hope they have lots of $5-$20 multi's that are not turbo and have decent structure and maybe some 45 man or 90 man that go as soon as they fill up.
Not sure if this has been posted yet (sorry, I've had a ridiculous couple of days, trying to stay afloat of y'all!), but we have some new structured SNGs with a longer structure (that aren't turbos).

Make sure to let Scotty know if you like them.
05-09-2013 , 08:08 PM
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Last edited by Dax @UltimatePoker; 05-09-2013 at 08:15 PM. Reason: Chris D Previously answered this better than I could.
05-09-2013 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by PhOeNiXpHrEaK
I think it is important to distinguish that the poster who contacted NVGCB asked about why UP had to have a 1.5 Mile buffer. UP said they had to have a 1.5 Kilometer buffer.

I don't think it is likely, but it is possible, that the law says "1.5km", so when asked/told about UP's "1.5m" buffer the NVGCB rep could have thought that this was UP's own rule being safer than the actual rule...
For what it's worth, many times the actual implementation of things like this happen as a matter of emails and conversations, or are documented in places like the system of internal controls documents (several hundred pages) that detail how we do business, down to the nitty gritty.

It is simply not possible for every person to know every detail in these documents. I am sure that members of enforcement over at GCB know that iGaming is "permitted only in Nevada", but may not necessarily know the details of the geographical buffer zone that attains a high enough confidence interval for "this player is in Nevada".

Sorry, that was probably the most awkward way to say that. Did it make any sense?
05-09-2013 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by aigbailout
The problem is that I am no longer in Nevada.....so Monday won't really help.

CAN SOMEONE FROM ULTIMATE POKER PLEASE RESPOND?

Due to the Verizon issue, if we make a deposit and cannot play....will we be able to have our money refunded? Currently without phone verification we cannot withdraw the money (the money that we could not use because of phone verification).

I think its important someone from Ultimate Poker respond to this!!!
We're adding "mobile phone verified" as a required flag so people won't be able to deposit and then not cash out, but in your case, we can certainly help. Naturally you'll be able to get your money out if you do not wish to wait for Verizon support (it's coming soon).

As always, send a support to playercare@ and they'll be happy to help you get your money cashed out. Even if you can't play, I'd suggest calling Verizon, having them remove short code blocking, and try to verify your mobile phone again. You should be able to cash out yourself that way.

Sorry for the inconvenience!
05-09-2013 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Dax @UltimatePoker
Not sure if this has been posted yet (sorry, I've had a ridiculous couple of days, trying to stay afloat of y'all!), but we have some new structured SNGs with a longer structure (that aren't turbos).

Make sure to let Scotty know if you like them.
Yea, I just noticed the new no turbo sng's. Pretty good structure and worth playing. I look forward to the non turbo daily MTT's in the $5-$20 range with at least 10 min. blinds and at least 3000 chips with good blind structure.

I thought that supposed to be today, if not then when is that happening?
05-09-2013 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by aigbailout
There are a ton of Ultimate Poker reps on here.

Can someone give us a phone number to call, or comment on the ridiculous response time to emails? Particularly as relates to a question about a withdrawal?

This is not acceptable.
We don't currently have phone support (sorry!).

As far as the response time to emails is concerned - we're definitely aware of the response time and we're doing everything we can to alleviate this. We're hiring temps and long term employees, training them, having people from other departments help with emails, have people in the actual casinos to answer questions, have hired people at Stations to answer generic questions, and are basically in all-out panic to try to get emails answered. Trust me, we're busting our butts, but it's been one week - it takes time to mobilize people and train them on the product.

I know this might seem rude - but this is a good thing. This means people are playing, and people want to get on the site. Have there been a few bumps and bruises in the initial registration process? You bet. Is that maybe better than having no one show up to your party? We think so. We're thrilled that the best game in town is on our site.

We *will* have more people, and we will be better at what we do. We're committed to providing the best customer support possible. Seriously.
05-09-2013 , 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlotte FatMan
While this is true. It is also true that if we ave a poor experience, it is going to make it hard for Ultimate Poker to maintain the goodwill of starting first.

Software and playability issues have taken many potential poker sites down in the past - Being first doesn't do much good if you have issues with triangulation, not having a major cell carrier on board, or if the program shuts down in the middle of a bet. Having to play the entire time with the cell phone on and able to receive texts is not really a viable solution long-term.
You'll only receive one text from us - the one asking you to opt into LBS so we can find your location.

You will need to keep your phone on while you play, though.
05-09-2013 , 08:33 PM
Drove by Wild Wild West today and didn't see any signs at all advertising UP or sign up/etc. That is a pretty busy area as tons of people drive by there on a daily basis. Just wondering why no signage there when the other stations do.
05-09-2013 , 08:33 PM
dax, i live in a house of grinders, are we going to have an issue playing the sunday $100 donkament from the same ip?
05-09-2013 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by skanky980
requested a cashout at midnight and it was ready to be picked up by noon. Amazingly soft games, never had anything close or drop while playing everything everyday, loving it.
Boom, headshot.

Thanks for the comments. Now I can say "at least one person" likes it and not be fibbing.
05-09-2013 , 08:36 PM
Huge news..

We now support MasterCard, and it's not using the 7995 VISA code that doesn't work for most banks.

Will update the FAQ shortly.
05-09-2013 , 08:36 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the overwhelmingly positive response on Days 1-3 of our launch. There have been a lot of duplicate questions, so I thought I'd take a moment to put them into a launch FAQ. Be aware that anything in this FAQ might change, but I'll do the best I can to put info in here to get you up and online.

My name is Chris Danek, I'm the Poker Product Manager at Ultimate Poker. You can reach me by tweeting @cdanek, PM'ing me here, or just posting in this thread. I try to be good about answering all the questions I get, but we've obviously got a lot going on lately, and I want to continue to focus my efforts at bringing you all good software. I listen to all the feedback I get, and I personally value the opinions on 2+2 (sometimes more than my own). Tweet your suggestions to me. Seriously.

FYI - I posted through the first half of this thread as "Daxonovitch", but I'm bowing out of that account (that'll just go back to lurking) so I can use this account. Please don't PM me there - I'm not going to see it for several days or weeks at a time. If you sent one there, send it here, I'll get it instantly.

One of my coworkers needs no introduction. He's Terrence Chan (not Johnny Chan), budding MMA fighter, and poker player extrordinaire. He's been working around the clock to help stem the tide of emails that have come in. I've seen him roundhouse kick his computer to answer twenty emails at once. He's a beast. If you have questions, your best bet is to send support email at playercare@ultimatepoker.com, but he likes twitter followers as much as I do, and you can find him at @tchanpoker.

Another of my coworkers is the esteemed Scotty Y. Many of you know him from his previous work in operations and VIP programs elsewhere. He's our games manager, responsible for a variety of games related items. Also, he'll beat you at craps. Seriously, the guy throws golden dice. I'll rent him to you for your craps games.

As of May 3, 10:20 AM, we now support Cricket location services.

As of May 9, we now accept MasterCard Deposits!

I NEEEEED HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLP.

Spoiler:
Our support department has been SWAMPED with the quantity of emails that are coming in. We're doing everything we can to answer all the questions our players have as quickly as possible (prioritizing things like ID verification and bank wires), but please, please be patient with us. We launched a brand new poker site this week, and the world came down on us to play. It's a good thing, but the impact is that support will take a little bit longer than normal to get back to you.


What do I need to play?

Aside from a network connection, you'll need a cell phone on Cricket, AT&T, T-Mobile, Virgin or Sprint networks. Additionally, you must be able to receive text messages from short codes: ours is UPOKER (876537).

Wait, what? I have Verizon.

We use your cell phone to triangulate your position in Nevada. Verizon has not approved this contract, so if you have issues, please call them and voice your concern. Tell them you want to play on Ultimate Poker and Verizon doesn't support location based services (LBS). You can call them at 1-800-922-0204, then #, 6, 6 when it asks for your number, then enter the last four of your social.

Let them know that you think this is unfair, it's a service you want, and that their competitors offer this service. It's not something that Verizon doesn't support, LBS is something that Verizon hasn't approved. Tell them to speak to their manager, and let them know you're not happy! We aren't either!

I'm not getting text messages from you.

Make sure your cell number is correct (duh). Then call your cell company and ask them if "short code" SMS senders are blocked. If you can get them to unblock it, great. Please let us know if you manage to do this - we're dying to know how.

Sprint:
Spoiler:

For Sprint customers, they offer a service called "Short Code Blocking", which prevents text messages from Short Codes (UPOKER, for example) to be blocked. If you are not receiving any texts from us, you should contact Sprint customer care at 888-211-4727 and ask to have short code blocking removed. If the support representative cannot find this, you should speak with technical support and ask them to look in the "PMG" to remove your number.


AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, MetroPCS, Cricket, Virgin, Simple, TracFone instructions coming soon.

I can't be location verified, but I *am* on AT&T, T-Mobile, Virgin, Cricket, or Sprint.

If this is the case, you might have an LTE enabled phone that's using a nearby cell phone tower that won't location verify (for us). If so, try disabling LTE (google it) and relogging in.

I have another cell carrier (MetroPCS, TracFone, Simple).

Sorry, we don't support those carriers yet. We're busting our butts to do so, though.

I haven't been verified yet. Should I go to the casino and deposit?

NO! You MUST have your ID verified so we know you're of age. Send your ID to idverification@ultimatepoker.com and please be patient. We're mashing them out as rapidly as we can.

Can I get a "drop" phone?

Yes. Several people have reported picking up a cheap phone, enabling it on AT&T and successfully logging in. Here is a list of verified phones and/or locations you can buy them:

Spoiler:

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Originally Posted by donkulous
I pickup up an AT&T Alcatel 510A Pre-Paid Cell Phone from Target for $14.99 which also required a minimum $15 prepaid card ($30 total). Worked perfectly. Verified instantly with UP. Played two games without issue.


What if I'm on a Mac?

You can still play on an emulator. If you don't have one, download and install VMWare (it costs $200 or so), and we'll reimburse you once you play about $200 in rake. We originally freerolled people this, but someone posted it on a Mac forum, and, well, sorry. Bye, bye freeroll. Email us once you hit about $200 in rake and scan a receipt, and we'll credit your account with $200.

I'm getting some sort of weird certificate error when I try to download it.

This is caused by internet explorer and an error with our certificate. You can still install it by "Save As", then find the file (It's called UltimatePokerSetup.msi) and run it.

You can also use Firefox or Chrome.

You can also lower the security on the internet zone temporarily, if you know how (and want to avoid FF and Chrome).

My Norton said that this file was bad and it didn't get downloaded?

It's in your Norton "quarantine". Remove it from there and you'll be good to go.

Is there a way to determine ahead of time if your cell situation will work? I would hate to go through the whole process (and risk?) of entering all my personal identification information only to find out that my location cannot be verified.

So, we're starting to try to untangle the cell phone triangulation (LBS - Location Based Services) thing. Ideally we want it to work for everyone, without fail. However, it seems that possibly the reason it's failing is that some towers take a very long time to report the location.

We use a company called "LocAID" for this. If you'd like, try using their web based applet to locate you and note the time. If it's less than about 10 seconds, you *shouldn't* have problems locating. You can find this here:

http://instantlocatedemo.loc-aid.com/

My cell phone (centrally located) locates in about 6 seconds and I've never had a problem logging into our development environments.

How do I send a Bank Wire?

Spoiler:


You will need all or some of the information below to initiate the wire
Account Name: Fertitta Acquisitions Co. LLC.
Account Number: 4971134952
Account Address: 420 Montgomery Street, San Francisco, CA 94104
Bank Name: Wells Fargo Bank
Bank Routing Number: 121000248
Bank BIC (Swift Routing): WFBIUS6S
Bank CHIPS: UID ABA 0407, SWIFT BIC WFBIUS33
Bank Address: 3800 Howard Hughes Parkway, Suite 400, Las Vegas, NV 89169


Please add the following information, if possible, to the wire
1. Full name
2. Email Address (registered with Ultimate Poker)
3. Phone Number
4. Date and Time of Transaction
5. Total Amount

Please also send an email with the following information

1. Full name
2. Email Address (registered with Ultimate Poker)
3. Phone Number
4. Date and Time of Transaction
5. Total Amount

To this email address playercare@ultimatepoker.com

Typically, the deposit may become available within the same day as long as the funds are accepted by 2:00 PM (PST). Any payments received after the cut off time will not post until the following banking business day. Once verified, your funds will manually be credited to your account and an email notification will be sent. Please note that there are fees associated with a wire transfer and are charged by the issuing bank, not Ultimate Poker. There is a minimum required balance of $500 or more to have this process initiated.



Why do I have to give you my SSN?

The main reason we ask for your SSN is for age verification, but we are actually REQUIRED to collect SSN if you are a United States Citizen. Per Nevada Regulation 5A.110.2.d (http://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdoc...ocumentid=2942), we can only register you if you provide your Social Security Number.

Our player care team, our supervisors, Stations team members and supervisors cannot even see it. Furthermore, it is encrypted in our database, so were anyone able to access our database, they wouldn't be able to get your SSN from it. We work very hard to ensure the security, privacy and integrity of your information.

How far inside the border of NV do I need to be?

1.5 km. The only places that should have any trouble are parts of Primm, Laughlin, and S. Lake Tahoe.

How much rake do you charge?

http://ultimatepoker.com/how-to-play...er/poker-room/

How old do I have to be? 18? 19? 21?

21.

More questions not answered here?

http://ultimatepoker.com/online-poker-faq/
05-09-2013 , 08:41 PM
Good that you added FAQ on website but don't hide it in the customer service tab, people may not see it, if they see FAQ tab they will click it.
05-09-2013 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bandonlooper1
dax, i live in a house of grinders, are we going to have an issue playing the sunday $100 donkament from the same ip?
Nope, but make sure you aren't soft-playing each other or colluding.

If you win and want to tip the dealers, we take in-and-out burgers, starbucks coffee, and soft open-face-chinese opponents.
05-09-2013 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
Good that you added FAQ on website but don't hide it in the customer service tab, people may not see it, if they see FAQ tab they will click it.
Good point. Our main web designer is out of the office for a couple days, but I'll pass along your feedback to him. We're doing anything we can right now to get people answers without having to email support, so they can get to the important support issues.

On that note, thanks to everyone who's been helping us out in this thread here. There's a lot of the same questions coming up over and over, so any way that we can reduce those is appreciated.
05-09-2013 , 09:46 PM
Dax I'm trying to register after I fill out all information it says we could not verify your registration data, I've contacted customer service and have not gotten a response what should I do
05-09-2013 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Connissuer
Dax I'm trying to register after I fill out all information it says we could not verify your registration data, I've contacted customer service and have not gotten a response what should I do
From the faq...
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I haven't been verified yet. Should I go to the casino and deposit?

NO! You MUST have your ID verified so we know you're of age. Send your ID to idverification@ultimatepoker.com and please be patient. We're mashing them out as rapidly as we can.
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05-09-2013 , 10:03 PM
Professional how do I send a copy of my ID Thanks
05-09-2013 , 10:06 PM
Scan it or take a digital picture, attach image to the email.
05-09-2013 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Connissuer
Professional how do I send a copy of my ID Thanks
read the post above
05-10-2013 , 12:15 AM
Professional Thanks, Can anyone tell me how long it took to get a response back after sending your verification

      
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