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07-25-2013 , 10:54 PM
Do sit and goes heads up go off
07-25-2013 , 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NewMoney
WSOP first week in August or sooner.
One of the coolest things about Nevada is that a company cannot do anything without permission from Nevada Gaming, and the agenda from the Gaming Control Board hearings are a matter of public record. Today was the Gaming Control Board meeting, WSOP.com was not on the agenda, this means an early August launch is not realistic at this time.

PS: Should this thread be merged with the official Zoo Ultimate Poker thread?

Last edited by *TT*; 07-25-2013 at 11:17 PM.
07-25-2013 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ubgrinder
I think if you guys added some middle limit games that compare with live the limit holdem action may increase. Try adding 3-6, 4-8, 8-18, 12-24 15-30 and 20-40 instead of 2-4, 5-10, 10-20, and 20-40. I really think this is the best idea to try and generate action.
I'm gonna say this won't work yet (game starting can be very painful at limit hold em, and you are faced with a ton of hit and runners, both when they win and lose, and I don't typically like to game start unless I'm certain I can eventually get a full table and that doesn't happen at .50/1 usually and probably above). Most of the people who are currently playing on Ultimate Poker in limit hold em are people who were playing in live 2/4 (huge majority of players) or 4/8 games. I occasionally see people wishing that 2/4 would run, but you need a much bigger bankroll requirement to play those games on there, and they almost never run except 6 handed, which most of the micro limit players don't like playing. Most people are happy depositing 50 bucks and seeing if they can run it up at .25/.50.

I originally deposited 50, and have been using fairly strict bankroll management to move up the levels most of the time. There is an identical player pool, in most cases, at .05/.10, .10/.20, and .25/.50, but .50/1 is where the player pool changes, and only a handful of the .25/.50 players are willing to play in that game. The majority of the .50/1 games run (when they do) with people I saw playing 5/10 and even 10/20 in the early stages of the site, and I think very few people who play at that stake typically played below 4/8 live. My goal was to game start at whatever level I wanted to play and hope the micro stakes players would follow (since it's much cheaper than playing 2/4 in a casino), but as I said above, they aren't following to .50/1. The .25/.50 game is stable and no longer needs me to game start, but for almost 2 months if I didn't start a game, limit games would not run at any level .25/.50 or below, though they would often fill up quickly after 3pm. Some of the spewy players you often encounter heads up make it really hard to game start, because a lot of people are scared to play in those types of games.
07-25-2013 , 11:35 PM
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Ultimate Gaming Chairman Tom Breitling estimates that about 50 percent of the site’s engineering is on compliance issues, and the company made a gamble in focusing on creating a stripped-down site that passed regulatory muster quickly rather than a feature-heavy system that couldn't make it out of the testing labs. For now, Ultimate’s gamble has paid off: The site completed a field trial earlier this month, before any would-be competitors have even gone live. And Breitling promises a “continuous improvement,” with more features added as the site evolves.
Emphasis mine. Hats off to Ultimate Poker for seeing that this was the way to get online poker launched, and also having the foresight to know that this would happen to their competitors.

http://vegasseven.com/latest/2013/07...ref_map=%5B%5D
07-25-2013 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by nunnehi
I'm gonna say this won't work yet (game starting can be very painful at limit hold em, and you are faced with a ton of hit and runners, both when they win and lose, and I don't typically like to game start unless I'm certain I can eventually get a full table and that doesn't happen at .50/1 usually and probably above). Most of the people who are currently playing on Ultimate Poker in limit hold em are people who were playing in live 2/4 (huge majority of players) or 4/8 games. I occasionally see people wishing that 2/4 would run, but you need a much bigger bankroll requirement to play those games on there, and they almost never run except 6 handed, which most of the micro limit players don't like playing. Most people are happy depositing 50 bucks and seeing if they can run it up at .25/.50.

I originally deposited 50, and have been using fairly strict bankroll management to move up the levels most of the time. There is an identical player pool, in most cases, at .05/.10, .10/.20, and .25/.50, but .50/1 is where the player pool changes, and only a handful of the .25/.50 players are willing to play in that game. The majority of the .50/1 games run (when they do) with people I saw playing 5/10 and even 10/20 in the early stages of the site, and I think very few people who play at that stake typically played below 4/8 live. My goal was to game start at whatever level I wanted to play and hope the micro stakes players would follow (since it's much cheaper than playing 2/4 in a casino), but as I said above, they aren't following to .50/1. The .25/.50 game is stable and no longer needs me to game start, but for almost 2 months if I didn't start a game, limit games would not run at any level .25/.50 or below, though they would often fill up quickly after 3pm. Some of the spewy players you often encounter heads up make it really hard to game start, because a lot of people are scared to play in those types of games.
I think there is nothing stopping limit games going. People arent needing to bankroll manage as much with their online roll because its easier to deposit and much more secure. When i first got on there were constant 5-10 and even 10-20 fixed going, but it has slowly died down. I lobby for 5-10 nearly all day and get 3-4 small sessions in. I think if they do something to promote the fixed they could get some of the live grinders to play online. They need to reduce the rake and you will see them flock. Even a good vip program may bring in some heavy volume limit players. Only time will tell I guess.
07-26-2013 , 02:07 AM
I agree that promotions will help drive limit traffic, but I think resizable tables will be the biggest enhancement to limit hold em traffic in the short term (remember, the key is a thriving pool, and if the promotion isn't long term, I think it would hurt the pool in the long term). I struggle to play 3 tables right now, but would probably play 4 to 6 when resizable tables happen, and I think there are at least 4 or 5 other players that would do the same, which will help prop the games. I thought it was really encouraging that the Summer Series event had 170 players, since there is no way the player pool at limit hold em is 170 from what I've seen, and I've been there nearly every day from the beginning, though from the opposite side of the economy you're dwelling in.

I occasionally put my ear to the ground, and a bunch of the micro FLHE players would like to see a BBJ or high hand jackpot. Just having a few of those types of tables available, in addition to non-jackpot tables would probably help traffic as well (could possibly function as a long term "promotion", since most of the players are completely oblivious to rake).
07-26-2013 , 11:46 AM
Congratulations Ultimate Poker on hiring Mike Britt as the new Vice President of Market Development and Government Affairs. According to news reports, he will be responsible for new market development and legislative efforts to pave the way for real money online gaming in new states.

Mike is an experienced government affairs and gaming professional, he was formerly at Wynn where he served as the VP of Community and Government Affairs. Before Wynn he was the Associate Director at the White House Office of Political Affairs during the G.W. Bush Administration.

In his new role, Britt will be responsible for new market development and legislative efforts to pave the way for operations in real money online gaming jurisdictions.

Good move UP! http://www.gamingintelligence.com/pe...%20appointment

- TT
07-26-2013 , 04:50 PM
i would like to give my opinion on the disconnect protection decision. I think it is totally wrong for the winning hand to lose because of lost internet connection. I understand the premise of potential abuse but why not play the hand out and pay the best hand as of the moment the disconnect happened..i think it is vastly more important that the best hand wins here than the downside of someone abusing the system. if they do, that is for
07-26-2013 , 04:57 PM
UP to check and see that it isn't happening multiple times like the guy forcing other people to disconnect on stars or the guy always being the button. you guys have the means to catch those guys and ban them, but for the guy that raises $50 preflop with aces and gets a fish to call with king jack and the flop is a ace, 3 7 rainbow, and the KJ tries to bluff bet, and WHOOSH, the trip aces disconnects and loses INSTEAD OF WINNING a major pot. what recourse does he have....its simply wrong...anyway, how many situations can a person WILLINGLY disconnect himself to get an advantage. I would say its infinitely less than people getting screwed because they had the winning hand and their pc booted them off
07-26-2013 , 05:03 PM
^^That's actually a good point. The potential for abuse of all-in disconnect protection isn't really a good reason to not have it; it's just a good reason to scrutinize disconnections.

Stars regs have a habit of policing the tables they play for players who "grimm" at HU play (playing the button then quitting) by reporting habitual offenders to Stars, which then takes action against them. If you give players an easy way to report disconnection abuse, and make it a violation of the T&C, all-in disconnection would be a viable option.

And you guys really should look into it. Back in the day, all-in disconnect protection was available because it was necessary because people had connection problems all the time.

You guys seem to be having those problems now, too. I posted a few days ago that I had only had connection problems affect one hand I played, but my client has crashed on both days I have played since posting that. In addition, I have won a few pots against players who got disconnected, costing me a few bucks here and there in missed value.

So I'm definitely understanding where people have been coming from.

Bottom line is that if we are going to continuously have connection problems that are UP's fault, we ought also have some protection from those problems.
07-26-2013 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ubgrinder
Sometimes picking up cashouts at the cage can be incredibly slow.
I was told by a cashier that a few of the casinos were added after the fact to the computer system and that's why some cages can do the transaction faster than others, I've never used their cage for cashouts but she recommended I try Green Valley, and she said Wild Wild West is probably the slowest
07-26-2013 , 05:55 PM
I used WIld Wild West for a cash out early on and it was quick.
07-26-2013 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ubgrinder
The software is terrible, but that is to be expected and a temporary thing. It seems like any day now we will have the update with a good VIP program. The games are pretty good and there is only a dead period between 3:30 am til about 8 am it seems where its a ghost town. The deposits are very easy and cashouts vary. Ive had some take 30 mins and others a full 3 days. The caliber of games vary but seems to be pretty good. I am still looking forward to a good vip program, a bigger mtt schedule, better software and some plo. I think within the next 6 months we will see a lot of great changes. I will say that support has been much better than I expected. Sometimes picking up cashouts at the cage can be incredibly slow. Also avoid having multiple ones as they need to do each one separate. All and all its a pretty good first launch for regulated poker. It definitely beets the alternatives.
Thank you ubgrinder. I appreciate your feedback.
07-26-2013 , 06:54 PM
Scotty what is UB filming at the Red Rock
07-26-2013 , 08:13 PM
Is there a way to see how many 777 SNGs I've won? Will it let me know when I get to seven?
07-26-2013 , 08:15 PM
will we see a time bank in v2?
07-26-2013 , 08:34 PM
What is the advantage of going to a Station casino to make my deposit, rather than just doing it online at ultimatepoker.com? Anyone's thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

(sorry for the repeat!)

Last edited by Lancey; 07-26-2013 at 08:40 PM.
07-26-2013 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by electrickshiite~
I was told by a cashier that a few of the casinos were added after the fact to the computer system and that's why some cages can do the transaction faster than others, I've never used their cage for cashouts but she recommended I try Green Valley, and she said Wild Wild West is probably the slowest

What is the advantage of going to a Station casino to make my deposit, rather than just doing it online at ultimatepoker.com? Anyone's thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
07-26-2013 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancey
What is the advantage of going to a Station casino to make my deposit, rather than just doing it online at ultimatepoker.com? Anyone's thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

(sorry for the repeat!)
no real advantage other then you can only do 1 echeck every 5 or 6 days.
07-26-2013 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by luka allen
Is there a way to see how many 777 SNGs I've won? Will it let me know when I get to seven?
There's no way to tell within the software other than running a lengthy "all transactions" report and identifying all of the 1st place credits.

Alternatively, you can email support and get a speedy answer!
07-26-2013 , 10:14 PM
will note taking capabilities be on v 2.0?
07-26-2013 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron
I used WIld Wild West for a cash out early on and it was quick.
Anything good about wild wild west? Do they have good food deals or anything?
07-26-2013 , 11:24 PM
As far as what? Its no like I went there to gamble lol, it was just the closest stations casino to me after my cash out was approved so I went there to collect.
07-26-2013 , 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Horribleplay702
Anything good about wild wild west? Do they have good food deals or anything?
as far as i remember, they have a dennys and little else. there are plenty of restaurants a few blocks away tho
07-27-2013 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Horribleplay702
Anything good about wild wild west? Do they have good food deals or anything?

It's like a box big enough to fit people inside that dogs constantly piss on, and is filled with a bunch of zombies looking for heroin or meth. If your trying to get high and get a hooker this is definitely where you want to be, don't cash out anything over 100.

      
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