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Originally Posted by Greg29
Do not stake :
TrulyRand0m on FTP and Stars.
He quit me at his highest makeup point with these exact words, from a mail he sent me :
"I want to be able to play $12 180s or $26 90 mans or $11 MTTs on my own, and it's hard to find the motivation to play them under the stake since I'd literally have to win 3 $12 180s in a row to ALMOST get out of makeup."
Not cool.
He won you a bunch of money, and you still changed the terms of the agreement multiple times to make him play lower and lower as his makeup got higher and higher. Imagine if you were playing 55s and got in makeup for 1800 and got forced to play 11s and lower. How motivated would YOU be to play? I don't know a single backer that:
A) Lowers their horses buyins when they get deep in makeup and offers no kind of deal to keep them motivated AND
B)Changes terms on the fly multiple times in the absolute worst possible way for the horse because your OTHER horses are tanking AND
C) TRIES TO GET THEM TO PAY THEIR MAKEUP after you do all this crap to him because he wants to quit you for treating him like this. Here's a hint: giving someone money to play with that you expect to be paid back is not a STAKE. It is a LOAN. You accepted risk when you decided to start staking. You do NOT get makeup paid out of pocket, period (unless he did something like roll on you or play outside the terms of the stake, which you changed multiple times but he still stayed within your bounds), and to think otherwise is ridiculous.
A "Do Not Stake" is extremely serious and I don't think you understand the gravity of it being out there. Another thing to note is I'm pretty sure he won you about 5k over the term of the stake and is in makeup for 1800 or so at the moment, which give you a net win off him of ~3200. Talk to ANY person that backs people and give them all the details of how you've treated him and see if they don't laugh in your face. I'm almost certain you just don't understand the variance of being a staker and how to deal with your horses, and to drag his name through the mud after all of the junk you've done is just lower than low.
And btw, quoting ONE line from an email just to make someone look scammy is scammy in and of itself.
Last edited by makeit3bets; 05-18-2009 at 11:02 AM.