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11-23-2007 , 11:21 AM

Crispy Bacon

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 456

Villain is 55/7/1.5 over 100 hands. I think the 7 PFR part is what makes the turn decision tough as I can't see too much I'm ahead of. Check and call a river bet which will hopefully be a bluff?

Pacific Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 2

Hero raises, 2 folds, SB 3-bets, BB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 5

(5.67SB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: A

(3.83BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero...?

11-23-2007 , 11:28 AM

inferno

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,830

fold preflop seriously

villian seems maniacish, so if he c/r the turn there is a big possibility that he is bluffing so I dont mind firing this turn

11-23-2007 , 11:51 AM

TheHip41

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 27,049

Quote:

fold preflop seriously

villian seems maniacish, so if he c/r the turn there is a big possibility that he is bluffing so I dont mind firing this turn

55/7/1.5 is not a manianc, it's a passive fish.

His play screams JJ or QQ.

I'd bet, and fold if he c/r the turn or river.

11-23-2007 , 12:06 PM

Wolfram

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Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,066

Quote:

if he c/r the turn there is a big possibility that he is bluffing

Think about villains line. He 3bet preflop from the blinds to and UTG raise. He bets the flop, and then checks the turn when an ace appears. If he check/raises then this is a fancyplayed monster a lot and we have to fold imo.

I'd b/f turn and b/f river (maybe b/c river).

11-23-2007 , 09:27 PM

FlopYouDead

adept

Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 911

I would check turn be it for value or defense.

May get a suspicious call from QQ you wouldn't get otherwise. May draw a chop with a scared ace. Won't get bluffed off best hand tho I think that's an unlikely line.

Question is calling a river lead. He would have no reason to bet QQ, really.

11-24-2007 , 01:51 AM

StellarWind

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,324

Let's see:

1. You hit your 3-out draw on the turn.

2. Villain checks turn in apparent fear of the ace.

3. Despite your amazing good fortune you are nevertheless afraid to bet because "I can't see too much I'm ahead of".

Worst ... flop call ... ever.

Bet-fold the turn and river to get paid off by all the pocket pairs. A checkraise by this type of player is usually a monster. Second choice is a nice ace with only a few outs to the chop.

11-24-2007 , 01:54 AM

johnnyrocket

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9,277

Quote:

fold preflop seriously

villian seems maniacish, so if he c/r the turn there is a big possibility that he is bluffing so I dont mind firing this turn

55/7/1.5 is not a manianc, it's a passive fish.

His play screams JJ or QQ.

I'd bet, and fold if he c/r the turn or river.

agreed, i am not thrilled with this flop peel against this player either knowing we are drawing to 3 outs at best.

11-24-2007 , 04:16 AM

Black Hat

veteran

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,927

So you called a flop bet to try and spike an ace and when the ace falls you second guess the flop call.

Anyway, as played its time to value bet.

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