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09-20-2009 , 03:45 AM

tiltequity

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 351

1/2 6-max

No reads on Villain since multi-tabling.

Hero is SB with Td9d

Villain opens CO, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, Villain calls.

Flop ( 7 SB ) 6s 5d 3s. Hero bets, Villain calls.

Turn ( 4.5 BB ) 5h. Hero checks, Villain bets...

Is firing a second bullet worthwhile to try fold out A-hi or other UI overcards? As played I felt too many Villain hands are not folding the turn on this board.

Once he bets we're getting 5.5 : 1 as a probable underdog with no SD power, so is folding the right play?

09-20-2009 , 03:55 AM

Devildances

adept

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,003

I don't mind PF, but if you are going to 3bet T9s i think you gotta follow through and bet that turn. He may not fold Ax but he could fold Kx/Qx/Jx which is ALOT of hands that have you beat.

And you gotta three barrel on a blank river imo.

I reckon if you play it less aggressively there isn't much point in 3! pf.

Weird to not fire again IMO.

I mean what, if the flop was Broadway you'd barrel off against hands that have you beat, but on low cards you give up, and so you only fire bullets when you pair ?

09-20-2009 , 04:00 AM

xerok

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 338

as played, barrel the turn to fold out a ton of j-10 k-x q-x hands.

don't ever barrel river if you get called, you are just spewing and he will be going to showdown if he calls the turn.

09-20-2009 , 04:10 PM

tiltequity

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 351

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devildances

when a turn broadway card comes off (or flop had some broadway cards) i have more folding equity since he'd more often have 1 overcard instead of 2, and when he peels again it's easier for me to c/f river UI since then he'll have more pairs and SDbound Ahi's in his range.

as played agreed the turn is a must-barrel to fold out hands like KJ (as xerok mentioned), and river more dependent on his WTSD.

09-20-2009 , 08:40 PM

graha0011

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,400

Yeah if ever there was a flop that is getting peeled by 100% of a CO opening range, this is it. Double barrel as others have said.

09-20-2009 , 08:43 PM

Absolution

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9,021

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiltequity

Well, weaker A high may fold. I think the river is a must bet unless you have a read that he can't fold K high on a paired board. You have the bottom of your range.

09-20-2009 , 09:44 PM

Carmine

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,691

I don't like any street. You are multi-tabling, you have no read/range on this guy. Then you play the hand poorly postflop. Why even get involved in the hand?
The whole point of making this PF play is to get his better hand to fold and I have yet to run into the player that folds to my check no matter how aggressive and convincing I make that check appear.

Some advice for future hands. Once a player, any player, raises PF and gets HU he will see a turn 85+% of the time. On low board texture flops such as this he will see a turn 95+%

09-20-2009 , 10:09 PM

maverickai

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,667

I will definitely 2nd barrel, as players peel the Flop very light, as they assume you to be c-betting 100% of your range.

For the River Barrel, it really depends on his action when he's checked or bet. So definitely you have to note if his probability of:
1. folding Ace-hi when bet to,
2. betting Ace-hi when checked to

If he often folds his Ace-hi, it's worth a bet, as that is a big part of his range.

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