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05-29-2008 , 06:33 AM

dilettante

stranger

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7

BB is practically unknown to me (18.8/12.5/7.0/16), but I noticed that he is multitabling +4 tbls.

$5.00/$10.00 Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 7

1 fold, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls

Flop: (4 SB) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero ?

Is this a calldown ag. unknown and if it is, are there any cards on t&r that forces me to fold?

05-29-2008 , 06:42 AM

milesdyson

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 23,856

i'd call and call a lot of blank turns. J turn is a fold even w/ the gutshot getting 5:1 because i have you at like 10% equity. there's like no way you ever have the best hand on a J turn so it's a simple "i have 2 outs sometimes, 4 outs sometimes, and 6 outs sometimes" spot. same on a Q turn, you need to fold.

believe it or not it's close on an 8 turn, and you should def call a 2-6 turn.

my reasoning: i give the guy lots of TP but i don't always think they c/r 9x, but i do think they always cr any oesd

05-29-2008 , 11:06 AM

Spy Dog

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Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 6,350

Interesting flop.

He almost never has a 6-outer.

He's almost always raising a 10-outer or made hand.

He's generally folding any 3 outer on the flop.

I'd check behind here against a lot of guys. That's dumb advice, though, because you would have to know how to play the turn/river when checking behind and that's a tough skill to learn. So, overall, just listen to Miles.

05-29-2008 , 02:38 PM

dilettante

stranger

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by milesdyson

my reasoning: i give the guy lots of TP but i don't always think they c/r 9x, but i do think they always cr any oesd

With this reasoning I should fold when Q, J or 8 hits, as you said.

But what about K's and A's. Is it ok to assume that 2-3 cards in playing zone overall kills my 77 on this hand?

And if that is the case, is my CD from flop profitable anymore, since there is 20 cards to come (which I have to dodge) on both big streets? Meaning that 67.5% of time one of these cards will appear before showdown.

Even only with Q, J, 8-assumption there is 45% chance that I have to fold before SD.

(Playing PP when there is multible overcards on board are prolly hardest spots for me to solve.)

05-29-2008 , 02:46 PM

dilettante

stranger

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spy Dog

I'd check behind here against a lot of guys. That's dumb advice, though, because you would have to know how to play the turn/river when checking behind and that's a tough skill to learn. So, overall, just listen to Miles.

I'm not going to give free card to any Ax, Kx, Qx or Jx combos which are pretty big part of his range. As long as I'm preflop-aggressor in HU pot(especially steal-situation), I'm c-betting every flop..

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