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06-05-2009 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
E-checks stops working and the games suddenly get worse... that was my experience. I hope this doesn't last long.
What E-checks is not working? Does this mean that my withdrawal is going to be held up?

Last edited by La Peste; 06-05-2009 at 02:58 AM.
06-05-2009 , 03:16 AM
2_basic 1, DrivingDog 0
06-05-2009 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
What E-checks is not working? Does this mean that my withdrawal is going to be held up?
There's a thread about it in the internet poker forum... if you already made your echeck cashout, you should be fine I think. I'm mainly annoyed because bad players need to be able to deposit money this weekend, hehe.
06-05-2009 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
There's a thread about it in the internet poker forum... if you already made your echeck cashout, you should be fine I think. I'm mainly annoyed because bad players need to be able to deposit money this weekend, hehe.
I'm counting on it to pay my rent, fingers crossed.
06-05-2009 , 01:14 PM
good luck getting the $ out -- hopefully you can do so without difficulty

but please never rely on the e-check system to be fully operational -- it comes and goes as the cat and mouse game with the US gov't continues onward
06-05-2009 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by GootRuck
And so does it pretty much make sense to always spend your VPP's on the 4k bonuses whenever you can? Is there any benefits to keeping/hoarding them? Or do you just go all out and buy each 4k bonus bonus at the 250k level?
Spending the points only on 4k bonuses is hoarding them. You can buy bonuses at much lower prices (as low as $50 I think) but those bonuses cost more points/dollar. Saving up for the 4k bonus is the most cost effective strategy right now.

As for the delayed gratification concept I think that this is intentional by stars since you are compelled to keep playing in order to get full value from your bonuses and points. If I have 250 k points now and spend it on a 4k bonus and decide to quit once I cash it I have 100k points when I am done cashing it so I might as well play the $1500 bonus out. When I am done with that I have +- 35k points which I think is still worth a few hundred dollars. Eventually it ends but not until I have played a TON more poker.
06-05-2009 , 03:50 PM
The smaller $1500 bonus can be pretty efficient if it means moving up to a stake that you know you can beat... it should be pretty easy to make up the difference with the increased hourly rate.
06-05-2009 , 04:00 PM
Thanks for the responses everyone, I might be going for SNE next year so I am just trying to get a grasp for how this all works, thanks again.
06-05-2009 , 04:02 PM
there's nothing that beats the pop-up message about clearing your bonus and that $4k was added to your account, though
06-05-2009 , 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scorcho
there's nothing that beats the pop-up message about clearing your bonus and that $4k was added to your account, though

See! Now you're gettin' me all excited :P
06-05-2009 , 05:33 PM
I took a few days off cause last month took its toll on my nerves a little.
Sweet saturday night feeling, awesome soft tables everywhere.
700 hands, won at showdown 39. -100BB. Hello June I love you too.
06-05-2009 , 05:41 PM
And btw Roland, how much equity would you say you have on average on this flop with your eights against my range after I 3bet you PF and b/3bet that 6hi rainbow flop (I wanted to c/r but lost the action so went for b/3b)? Just asking because I regularly hear you saying how you are one of the best if not the best 2/4-3/6 reg.
Nice cap.

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with J J
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP caps!, BTN calls, Hero calls

Flop: (13 SB) 2 6 3 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, MP caps!, BTN calls, Hero calls

Turn: (12.5 BB) T (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, BTN calls, Hero calls

River: (15.5 BB) 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, BTN folds, Hero calls

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 17.5 BB
Hero mucks Js Jh
MP shows 8h 8c (three of a kind, Eights)
MP wins 17 BB
(Rake: $2.00)
06-05-2009 , 06:00 PM
When you want to win pots, just put your villain on AK if there's no A or K on the board

if there is, put them on QJ
06-05-2009 , 06:35 PM
my money! my money! the sky is falling! the sky is falling! echecks! echecks!
06-05-2009 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Scorcho
When you want to win pots, just put your villain on AK if there's no A or K on the board

if there is, put them on QJ
this is actually good advice and I follow it all the time
06-05-2009 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bellatrix
my money! my money! the sky is falling! the sky is falling! echecks! echecks!

i cant believe the number of people after UIGEA that rely on the online poker payment process to work 100% smoothly

and then go write mortgage checks (or other checks) assuming everything will work fine and that the money will be there as it should

especially given how there's been multiple hiccups with payment processors opening/closing before

leave yourself a safety net, people
06-06-2009 , 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Scorcho
i cant believe the number of people after UIGEA that rely on the online poker payment process to work 100% smoothly

and then go write mortgage checks (or other checks) assuming everything will work fine and that the money will be there as it should

especially given how there's been multiple hiccups with payment processors opening/closing before

leave yourself a safety net, people
i cant believe that you actually took the time to write this
06-06-2009 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by V4P
i cant believe that you actually took the time to write this
i cant believe that you actually took the time to reply this
06-06-2009 , 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
Holy Moley. He's on a huge downswing, I "almost" feel sorry for the guy. He should discuss this in his blog. I was wondering where the hell he was and how come 3/6 and 2/4 have been so good lately. I'm not going to miss him clogging up all the games, I hope he keeps losing at 1/2.
Too bad for him he can;t get VPP by tell people how cool he is on his Blog, he could get like 8 porchs if he could.
06-06-2009 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by V4P
i cant believe that you actually took the time to write this
i was at work

ergo, i earned a wage while writing it
06-06-2009 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
And btw Roland, how much equity would you say you have on average on this flop with your eights against my range after I 3bet you PF and b/3bet that 6hi rainbow flop (I wanted to c/r but lost the action so went for b/3b)? Just asking because I regularly hear you saying how you are one of the best if not the best 2/4-3/6 reg.
Nice cap.

Poker Stars $2/$4 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is SB with J J
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP caps!, BTN calls, Hero calls

Also, I apologize if I come off as some arrogant prick who thinks he is the man. I am actually a fairly humble guy. I screw up as much as the next and freely admit I still need to learn things.

Flop: (13 SB) 2 6 3 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, MP caps!, BTN calls, Hero calls

Turn: (12.5 BB) T (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, BTN calls, Hero calls

River: (15.5 BB) 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, BTN folds, Hero calls

Spoiler:
Final Pot: 17.5 BB
Hero mucks Js Jh
MP shows 8h 8c (three of a kind, Eights)
MP wins 17 BB
(Rake: $2.00)

I like the way I played this hand. Your range on the flop is still rather broad (If I remember correctly the 3rd player was a lap and basically irrelevant.) The turn is interesting because it is a T, I followed through with intention of checking behind on the river. However, I usually would Check through on any paint here, which makes the T that more interesting. I fold to c/r btw.

My main point is, with the flop cap, it is more about pot control than anything else. I wanted to get to the river and save a bet unless the board turns out favorable to me (which is unlikely with 88). Which means I am either going to take a free turn or free river, depending on how scary the turn card is.

Last edited by Roland32; 06-06-2009 at 09:04 AM.
06-06-2009 , 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Roland32
I like the way I played this hand. Your range on the flop is still rather broad (If I remember correctly the 3rd player was a lap and basically irrelevant.) The turn is interesting because it is a T, I followed through with intention of checking behind on the river. However, I usually would Check through on any paint here, which makes the T that more interesting. I fold to c/r btw.

My main point is, with the flop cap, it is more about pot control than anything else. I wanted to get to the river and save a bet unless the board turns out favorable to me (which is unlikely with 88). Which means I am either going to take a free turn or free river, depending on how scary the turn card is.
Also quick note, I apologize if I have come off as some arrogant prick, who thinks he is the man. I am actually a fairly humble guy and can frely admit that I am capable of spewing as much as the next guy and still have things to learn in this game.
06-06-2009 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Roland32
I like the way I played this hand. Your range on the flop is still rather broad
well, that is why I was asking, what range do you put me on after I 3bet preflop and b/3b this flop? If you think you are ever ahead here you are quite mistaken, why on earth would I do this with AK or AQ? I never have A6 here either, so you are basically hoping I am spewing like a mofo with overcards or 77, but after you capped pf that would be pretty darn stupid on my part.
I mean, when I 3bet you here, you should be praying to hit a set or that I am in red hot tilt mode because otherwise you are never ever good here. Capping is just horrible. It would be somewhat less horrible if I at least had some possible draws in my range, but I have none here.
06-06-2009 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
I mean, when I 3bet you here, you should be praying to hit a set or that I am in red hot tilt mode because otherwise you are never ever good here. Capping is just horrible. It would be somewhat less horrible if I at least had some possible draws in my range, but I have none here.
I'm not sure that a guy who donkbet the PF capper can go on to make statements about things never happening or the an overpair never being good.

If you're this solid, you'd have trapped the BTN in the hand for a raise. If you made that mistake, you could make others. Also, you missed the part where the cap costs him 1 SB that he can save on the turn or river. If your raise is 100% AA or KK, you think this is bad. It if were, he could fold the turn. Since he's calling down regardless, he saved a SB.

It is understandable that you're upset that he hit a 2 outer. Your strat here isn't 100% great.
06-06-2009 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by daiquiri
well, that is why I was asking, what range do you put me on after I 3bet preflop and b/3b this flop? If you think you are ever ahead here you are quite mistaken, why on earth would I do this with AK or AQ? I never have A6 here either, so you are basically hoping I am spewing like a mofo with overcards or 77, but after you capped pf that would be pretty darn stupid on my part.
I mean, when I 3bet you here, you should be praying to hit a set or that I am in red hot tilt mode because otherwise you are never ever good here. Capping is just horrible. It would be somewhat less horrible if I at least had some possible draws in my range, but I have none here.
Well lets assume that I DON'T cap. Then I call turn and river (unless you are advocating me folding). I actually put more money in the pot this way and give myself 0% chance of winning without a showdown. That seems like a pretty terrible line.

      
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