Definately seems like going for overcalls makes you the most money it would be hard to imagine anyone calling a raise with less than 2 pair.

I find the only way for myself to stop tilting is to play through it in one really long session. Sure you can take a short break but theres no guarantees youre not going to start tilting as soon as you start playing again.

Good posts, got me thinking about my biggest loosing session in money ever yesterday where i lost 2/3 of my bankroll. I was abit mad but i didnt feel like it affected my play, just thought i was running horribly bad.

But now this morning i started to think abit more and the thought of changing table etc never even crossed my mind, usually after loosing some 20BB at a table i start to consider changing that table out.

So i can only speculate at all the other common sense things i totaly failed at yesterday while repeating my mantra 'Omg i am running, please make it stop'.

Fakk it, back to the saddle tonight, its not like i have another hobby.

Leader;

I appreciate the post. A lot. Much of what you say is pointing me towards the type of introspection I need to undertake.

When you put 2/3 of your bankroll on the line in one day, tilt is the least of your problems

and let me 3bet you in peace please
I had position on u on every single table we played, of course im going to 3bet ur BTN/CO raises wide

Back from cuba, be in commerce on the 8th to 16th

that's almost exactly where I have you at after a few K hands and where PA has you at.. I guess you can't be much looser than that even if you run well?

Regarding Jared Tendler and tilt, I've had lessons with him and I've been very happy with it. Tilt is no longer a factor for me. You have to be open to new things though, otherwise don't bother.

PA is a big joke.

Here are my stats of my last 2 weeks at 1/2 sh.

weird, I always thought vpip should be more or less accurate after a few K hands

does any1 know if holmdem manager has the standard deviation's stats and where you can find it?i searched and find out that PT2 was it, but dont have PT2 instaled on this pc.

You probably have some older stats on me than this sample. I needed some time to cope with playing first when I started to extrem multitable in August and then again in October when I changed from tiling to stacking tables and so at times I played even nittier than now .
Lately I even get comfortable playing 26-27 VPIP.

Poker Stars $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is BB with 9 7
BTN/SB calls, Hero checks

Flop: (2 SB) 8 5 4 (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN/SB calls

Turn: (2 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

River: (2 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN/SB calls

Final Pot: 4 BB
BTN/SB shows 9 T (high card Jack - Ten kicker)
Hero shows 9 7 (high card Jack)
BTN/SB wins 3.95 BB
(Rake: $0.50)

same villain

Poker Stars $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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Pre Flop: (1.4 SB) Hero is BTN/SB with K 6
Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps!, BB calls

Flop: (8 SB) 8 8 7 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

Turn: (6 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps!, BB calls

River: (14 BB) 5 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero caps!, BB calls

Final Pot: 22 BB
BB shows 5 J (two pair, Eights and Fives)
Hero shows K 6 (a straight, Four to Eight)
Hero wins 21.95 BB
(Rake: $0.50)

lol, guy was getting sick of folding to my raises.

So he bloated the pot... and folded to my raise.


Poker Stars $15/$30 Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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Pre Flop: (1.667 SB) Hero is BB with 7 6
CO raises, 2 folds, Hero calls

Flop: (4.667 SB) T 4 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls

Turn: (4.333 BB) K (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls

River: (8.333 BB) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO folds

Final Pot: 10.333 BB
Hero mucks 7 6
Hero wins 10.267 BB
(Rake: $2.00)

great, tnks Yasawa

You're welcome. Just take it one step at a time. This stuff isn't easy to fix, but like I told bob in his tread, it isn't complicated either.

You can calculate this fairly easily by simply exporting your hand result data and using excel or any statistical package.

Sometimes I feel I'm like a battered spouse that keeps going back to her husband. This is why I keep going back to low limit Omaha H/L. You can't beat the rake, the game will drive you nuts, yet I keep playing when I get bored with hold 'em. I love it. And it loves me even though it beats me.

And pa has you at 22/16/1.7, not a far cry from your 24/17/1.7

I've said this once and I'll say it again -- PA's only value is in getting a broad picture of what your unknown player likely is. It won't be 100% accurate but it will tell you if your villain is a 50/0.4 type or a 35/25 type. Anyone using it to look at win rates or exact percentages/stats is fooling themselves and wasting their own time.

And, this is datamining, which is against the Stars T&C.

You beat me to it... seriously, is it really worth cheating to obtain this slightly useful information? I'm frankly appalled by the widely accepted notion that this is okay. Is it just the "other people are using it so I have to if I want to keep up" notion? Or "they can't do anything about it, so I may as well use it?" Or what?

Hey fwiw, I don't use it anymore after the sharkscope issue came about recently (see the Internet Gambling forum for more details on this). I've already stated in this forum that I want to see that site banned/pulled and I'll reiterate that here.

But yes, if there are tools out there that people are using against me, then I think it's putting myself at a disadvantage if I don't use it too. This opinion may be very unpopular but I don't really care.

And in an even more unpopular opinion -- I wish pokertracker, HEM, etc. were all banned too. Yes, it's more "acceptable" since it only logs hands that you've actually played. However, the true spirit of the game of poker does not involve storing a million-hand database of players and their tendencies. It should be notes and your own head only. A couple years ago I purchased PT for the sole reason that I saw how prevalent it was. I held out on purchasing it for so long.