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12-02-2010 , 03:25 PM
Tapirboy is 2+2 right?
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12-02-2010 , 03:51 PM
Ok, I live down at scorcho stakes, but wtf is the point of filling up the table and then sitting out? Theres not even a seat available for a fish to sit down.
12-02-2010 , 03:58 PM
because otherwise there would be a table with only one seat, which means someone takes it just so if a fish comes they'll have to start the new game or sit hu w someone... not much the players can do about it imo, if you are looking out for your own best interest, then you cant do anything besides go with the crowd (either that or find a way to change the crowd's behavior, gl with that)
12-02-2010 , 03:59 PM
If you don't sit, the fish will take that seat and you will be shut out. The hope is that one of the other players gets tired of doing that, leaves, and a fish sits.

Last edited by DrElo; 12-02-2010 at 03:59 PM. Reason: what trypt said
12-02-2010 , 04:01 PM
there needs to be a live poker implementation of lobby wars.
12-02-2010 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Scorcho
there needs to be a live poker implementation of lobby wars.
There kind of is. At Casino AZ, usually the first game to start is a 20/40. But one of the first players to show up is an old retired lawyer who likes to play higher and is what some of you would call a fish, but since few of the first people there will play 40, he sits in the 20 while the 40 or 60 players trickle in. Once they get enough players to start the 40 or 60 game without breaking the 20, they start to take their seats. The player in question always sits in the 5 seat, so a certain player is always kind enough to 'lock up' the 5 seat for him, and take the 6 seat himself. He is such a gentleman, isn't he.

Many times when the game starts off 5 handed or so, the 5-9 seats will all be full, and the other side of the table will be completely empty, so everyone is crammed into half of the table. Make it more obvious please.
12-02-2010 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Scorcho
there needs to be a live poker implementation of lobby wars.
I really hate it when this stuff caries over to live poker. Like 2 weeks ago at commerce we start a 5 handed 1-2 game. 1 guy doesn't want to play short but he draws the button, plays 3 hands and says hell be back when its 10 handed.

Whats to stop a player waiting for a 20/40/60 game from just joining a bigger game when its starting and just playing to his blind? Obviously you are really going to piss everybody off, but if you don't care then...
12-02-2010 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfram
daiq,

Hand is very standard, you both played the hand fine, nothing to get upset over.

You say the guy is 100/60 but you're playing huhu. That's not to far from optimal play. I think I play like 90/57. I don't know exactly cause vpip/pfr isn't that meaningful at huhu. It's much better to look at btn steal%, 3bet% and defend bb% (and btn limp% if they're limping at all).

Losing 50 bets in 55 hands to an aggro donk is super standard. Gotta get used to that if you plan on playing more huhu. Especially with the horrific raketrap that 3/6 and lower is. In fact, I doubt a guy who's aggro enough to c/r bluff a dry Axx flop is beatable at 3/6 unless he's insanely spewy.

You should def consider swapping the hands. Having someone review a session like this can be very helpful cause you're so blinded by tilt that you might miss a few mistakes you made. It's also useful for you to try to figure out what triggered the massive tilt, like specifically at which point, so you can control it better in the future.

It can also be good for the confidence if someone reviews a 50BB loss and just goes "std, nothing you could do".
Great advice here. Someone asked to see my latest massacre at 5/10 and I initially said no just like daiquiri. Then finally I was persuaded, but said "I was on my F game if you think I suck at poker I understand". He looked at the hands and said if that was my F game, I am going to destroy 5/10. So it boosted my confidence that where I thought I must have been playing poorly because I was full of rage, my game was actually solid and the results were just negative variance. So +1 to sharing a disaster session.
12-02-2010 , 04:14 PM
Or they are trying to not educate the fish La Peste...
12-02-2010 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope

Many times when the game starts off 5 handed or so, the 5-9 seats will all be full, and the other side of the table will be completely empty, so everyone is crammed into half of the table. Make it more obvious please.
I always laugh when we start a sh game, I sit in 5 seat for leg room, bad player sits in 6 and good players sit 7-10 then bad player says its way to crowded over here and moves to 3 or 4 seat.
12-02-2010 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by that_pope
Or they are trying to not educate the fish La Peste...
At least I don't have johnnyrocket trying to convince me to play him more while I am taking drunken shots at a game I couldn't beat sober.
12-02-2010 , 04:20 PM
Yo Locke you going to be at LAPC? Donkaments + sick LHE action from what I hear; I'm considering staying there for a few weeks although I usually can't take any more live poker after a week or so

Last edited by DrElo; 12-02-2010 at 04:22 PM. Reason: or after 2 sessions
12-02-2010 , 04:23 PM
Yea, I'll be there. Was there for NAPT and 1-2 or 2-4 ran every day (put name on list for 2-4 at 9 in morning, then see I was 7th on list 8 at night). Regs all said action is great during LAPC so looking forwards to it.
12-02-2010 , 04:24 PM
I am curious what is the demographic profile of the average high stakes fish? Exceedingly rick guy that knows he has no real chance but doesn't mind losing 20K for a couple hours of entertainment? An affluent professional who is a decent poker player but doesn't understand the level of competition he is facing?
12-02-2010 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tryptamean
because otherwise there would be a table with only one seat, which means someone takes it just so if a fish comes they'll have to start the new game or sit hu w someone... not much the players can do about it imo, if you are looking out for your own best interest, then you cant do anything besides go with the crowd (either that or find a way to change the crowd's behavior, gl with that)
Oic, lol. I don't know how any one makes any money up there. So much waiting around and picking your ass.
12-02-2010 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Locke
Yea, I'll be there. Was there for NAPT and 1-2 or 2-4 ran every day (put name on list for 2-4 at 9 in morning, then see I was 7th on list 8 at night). Regs all said action is great during LAPC so looking forwards to it.
holla

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Originally Posted by seattlelou
I am curious what is the demographic profile of the average high stakes fish? Exceedingly rick guy that knows he has no real chance but doesn't mind losing 20K for a couple hours of entertainment? An affluent professional who is a decent poker player but doesn't understand the level of competition he is facing?
At 100/200+, going on number of hands played (so one tabling a 300 hand session counts more than 5 hit and run attemps), I'd guesstimate 65% rich guy, 25% random shottaker, 10% pro who is good at poker overall but is -ev in some LHE games and either doesn't know it or doesn't care (see Grinder, The).
12-02-2010 , 04:42 PM
Are these lobby wars some sort of retaliation against St1ck for sitting out at every high stakes table waiting for a fish? I noticed he is the only player at every one of the tables. But from what I understand, trying to outlast St1ck in an endurance "who can be the biggest dbag" competition isn't going to work.
12-02-2010 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by La Peste
At least I don't have johnnyrocket trying to convince me to play him more while I am taking drunken shots at a game I couldn't beat sober.
That was a 100% completely sober shot take. Which is why I left right after the person I was there for left. If I was drunk, I woulda convinced myself to stay until I won a few hundred more.
12-02-2010 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DrElo
holla



At 100/200+, going on number of hands played (so one tabling a 300 hand session counts more than 5 hit and run attemps), I'd guesstimate 65% rich guy, 25% random shottaker, 10% pro who is good at poker overall but is -ev in some LHE games and either doesn't know it or doesn't care (see Grinder, The).
lol was railing the 3 handed 2/4 game he was playing in last night. He's SB, btn raises, he CCs, BB calls. Flop T44. Somehow it got to SD, and he had 98o.

In b4 he loses his main event cash.
12-02-2010 , 06:03 PM
Heat vs Cav's tonight should be interesting.
12-02-2010 , 06:05 PM
whats grinders sn
12-02-2010 , 06:09 PM
Was gonna make a thread for this hand but meh.. call down is fine here right? I mean we took super strong line and get raised on such a dry board. Villain is 28/21 over 50 hands so basically unknown.

$2/$4 Limit Holdem
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($83)
BTN ($82)
Hero ($168)
BB ($80)

Pre-Flop: (1.5 SB, 4 players) Hero is SB K A
1 fold, BTN raises, Hero 3-bets, BB 4-bets, BTN calls, Hero calls

Flop: 2 2 K (12.0 SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, BTN raises, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, BTN calls

Turn: 7 (9.5 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero (150)?


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12-02-2010 , 06:11 PM
Proper thread savers have tittay's, please fyp next time.
12-02-2010 , 06:13 PM
i just call down that hand, you've already typed "I HAVE AK" in the chat box and he doesn't seem to care.
12-02-2010 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by All Apologies
Proper thread savers have tittay's, please fyp next time.
Here's something PG-13 for ya..

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