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12-19-2007 , 02:57 PM
Yep, I have been moving up fast. I actually busted my account in March. After taking a short break and reloading, I played 1/2 for a brief time to get my bearings. I also stated watching poker videos and something in my game just clicked. After I finally made SN, I was able to cash in $4500 in FPP bonuses, giving me all the momentum I needed to become a 10/20 reg. I didn't cash out a dime until mid-summer, and since then I've only cashed out minimal amounts.

I'm a strong supporter of moving up aggressively in stakes and taking shots. Having a comfortable income from a regular job and not cashing out from your bankroll is key to doing that. I believe aba wrote some similar stuff in his well posts and on his blog.

It's especially surprising to see long-term established winners (with winrates well over 1BB/100) at 3/6-5/10 that don't do the same thing. Moving up is the fastest way to increase your hourly. FWIW, my liftetime WR is only about .75BB/100.
12-19-2007 , 03:22 PM
VN trypta..
It's good you have the cojones to move up like that.. assuming you dont tilt.

I have a fairly low risk tolerance and like to play with a large edge.. main reason I dont move up.
I also tilt a lot, and there is a direct correlation between the stakes and my tilt factor.
12-19-2007 , 03:33 PM
sicko run trypta

as a young gun in this poker game (by LHE standards, haha) moving up is tough mentally because the $$ swings get really significant compared to what I am used to

for a busto university kid in a town of even more busto university kids a couple grand is relatively a ton of money. I feel like someone with a full time job, family/car/house whatever would have a much different perspective than me

frankly the thought of a totally standard 50BB downswing at 30/60 scares the **** out of me and would likely put me in a serious funk
12-19-2007 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg
Hey SSSH hold em regs... Im staying 3 months in LA and would love some help, cause im pretty knew to this whole long term traveling thing.

http://forums.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=84556

Would really apreciate any input/advice...

Thanks, from ur friendly neibourhood heisenb0rg
Sounds very exciting, Heis. What's your reason for turning live pro as opposed to online pro? Is it the softness of the Commerce? Or the social aspect? Just seems that online you can log more hands and play in your underwear.
12-19-2007 , 03:37 PM
Very nice trypta. I imagine that you've played all the limits building your roll then. What's your thoughts on 10/20 vs. 5/10? I like the idea of moving up aggresively (once I stop cashing out) but the jump from 5/10 to 10/20 just seems big...
12-19-2007 , 03:39 PM
Nice Trypta!

Do you have a BRM plan? E.g. taking xBB shots when reaching xBB?
Mine is taking 50BB shots when i reach 300BB for the next limit.
Would like to hear yours if you have one.
12-19-2007 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by acehole60
Very nice trypta. I imagine that you've played all the limits building your roll then. What's your thoughts on 10/20 vs. 5/10? I like the idea of moving up aggresively (once I stop cashing out) but the jump from 5/10 to 10/20 just seems big...
I know this question wasn't directed at me but I think tryptamean will agree that one major factor as you move up in stakes is table/seat selection. If you do this really well you will be able to move up in stakes with a minimal difference in skill level in your opponents.
12-19-2007 , 04:45 PM
It ****ing works, it does. I read in a book written by kiyosaki that you first have to give what you want to recieve. That you should donate some to charity or something and it will return in piles. So about two weeks ago I donated some to a charity and now I am getting it already back+more.

I just got a email from FTP which is quite interresting (are there any bots found on FT or something?)

Quote:
Dear xxx,

Upon conclusion of a recent investigation of cash game play, we have determined that opponents of yours were in violation of the Full Tilt Poker Site Terms and End User License Agreement.

In this instance, we have seized the account balances of the offending players and redistributed it to players who were victimized. The calculation was based on the number of hands played against the offending players as well as the amount won or lost against them.

With this redistribution, we have determined that you are entitled to a refund of $140.55 , which will be placed in your account in the next 4-6 hours.

For various reasons, we are unable to advise you of the names of the players or any other information regarding this case; we thank you for your understanding in this regard. Full Tilt Poker investigates every concern of suspicious activity at our tables.

The vigilance of our players is one of the strongest weapons we have in our ongoing battle against unethical play. If you become suspicious of any behavior, chat, or action at our tables, please don't hesitate to contact us at support@fulltiltpoker.com.

If there is any other way we can be of assistance, please let us know.

Thank you,
12-19-2007 , 04:49 PM
Yes, in the zoo dan druff said they are reimbursing players that played against pokergirl z, who FT determined was a bot. Did you play against her at all? Kind of interesting if they are handing out a bunch of reimbursements from other bot accounts at the same time.
12-19-2007 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mvoss
I know this question wasn't directed at me but I think tryptamean will agree that one major factor as you move up in stakes is table/seat selection. If you do this really well you will be able to move up in stakes with a minimal difference in skill level in your opponents.
Yep, exactly, and this is still something I could put more effort into. I've been pleased at the fish population at all the stakes I've played, but as you move up, you have to look harder.
12-19-2007 , 04:56 PM
What the flying ****!?!?! Stupid ****ing prima.

UTG who's a loose/passive donkey has $2.20 left in a 2/4 game and raises. I'm MP and have A9o so I want to raise to isolate. But I can't raise, only call the $2.20. Can't even make it $4. What bull****!
12-19-2007 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by xerber
Nice Trypta!

Do you have a BRM plan? E.g. taking xBB shots when reaching xBB?
Mine is taking 50BB shots when i reach 300BB for the next limit.
Would like to hear yours if you have one.
When I first started taking shots above 10/20, I had over 1000BBs in my roll, so I didn't really have a strict stop loss. I just wanted to test the waters and see what happened. Since then, I've had a $30k limit in my mind to be comfortable at 30/60 and I have dropped down after my most recent 50/100 shot. My roll has varied widely between 30k-50k, with my biggest downswing being 18k over about 5 days. It didn't affect me too poorly because my roll ended up just below 30k, which is where I had started one week or so prior.

I would suggest making an imaginary $$ limit on your current bankroll, which would give you 300-500BBs at your current stakes. Then wait until you earn enough for a 50BB shot in addition to that limit. Then when you take the shot, don't think of the possible swings, just treat it as a 'freeroll' and if you are lucky, you'll stay permanently.
12-19-2007 , 05:03 PM
30k is very little to be playing 30/60
12-19-2007 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by inferno
30k is very little to be playing 30/60
This statement is clearly absurd.
12-19-2007 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tryptamean
I would suggest making an imaginary $$ limit on your current bankroll, which would give you 300-500BBs at your current stakes. Then wait until you earn enough for a 50BB shot in addition to that limit. Then when you take the shot, don't think of the possible swings, just treat it as a 'freeroll' and if you are lucky, you'll stay permanently.
Yep - that´s pretty much my plan right now untill i hit 5/T. Tomorrow i will take my first shot at 3/6.
Having in mind that i just started playing poker this year(15k hands so far) and SH at 0,25/0,5 4 months ago - i guess i can be pretty happy with myself.

Last edited by xerber; 12-19-2007 at 05:23 PM.
12-19-2007 , 05:26 PM
That's very nice xerber.

Am I a nit for keeping 1000+ BB's online while I owe my bank some money? I play a lot of HU so I figure I need to be conservative with my BRM.
12-19-2007 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by acehole60
That's very nice xerber.

Am I a nit for keeping 1000+ BB's online while I owe my bank some money? I play a lot of HU so I figure I need to be conservative with my BRM.
I think it depends on how many BB's you owe your bank. If say 200 BB's would make a significant difference I'd at least think about it. It also depends on if you have poker as your sole source of income and you cannot afford to move down.
12-19-2007 , 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by acehole60
That's very nice xerber.

Am I a nit for keeping 1000+ BB's online while I owe my bank some money? I play a lot of HU so I figure I need to be conservative with my BRM.
I keep 1000+ bb online, but only because I have nothing better to do with it and because of AP's "9%" interest. Id def pay the bank back. Paying off your debts is one of the best investments you can make.
12-19-2007 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mvoss
This statement is clearly absurd.
Really? I guess if you have a full-time job, 500 BB is fine. No way I'd want to try it as a pro.
12-19-2007 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NinaWilliams
I keep 1000+ bb online, but only because I have nothing better to do with it and because of AP's "9%" interest. Id def pay the bank back. Paying off your debts is one of the best investments you can make.
What's AP's 9% interest?
12-19-2007 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BrassMonkey
Really? I guess if you have a full-time job, 500 BB is fine. No way I'd want to try it as a pro.
What I meant to say is, there's no way you can make a statement like infernos without knowing anything about the player with 30k for 30/60's premises for playing in that game.
12-19-2007 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Eraserhead
What's AP's 9% interest?
Go take a look in the AP regulars thread.
12-19-2007 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Eraserhead
What's AP's 9% interest?
It says 9% but they've been underpaying me every month . Once you get to VIP elite status, you earn 9% interest per annum. If you cash out then you don't earn interest for that month.
12-19-2007 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mvoss
What I meant to say is, there's no way you can make a statement like infernos without knowing anything about the player with 30k for 30/60's premises for playing in that game.
Yea, but Trypta said he's about .75/100 lifetime. If I had that winrate, playing full time, I'd be too scared to crank it up to 30/60 without more than 500 BB.

Eh, whatever. Good job Trypta.
12-19-2007 , 07:35 PM
trypta,
are the full ring games good even when they aren't full? Cuz imo you are right the only good 30 games I've played in so far on stars are full ring. Often the same for 15 games too.

Is there any way you could be persuaded to share with me some of the 30/60 fish's screenames? I could trade money or hand reviews or PT/spreadsheet calcs or something in xchange. PM if interested.

To the BR nits: dude, its just money. if you lose it all, it's not like you can't grind small stakes (or get a job) and win it back.

      
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