SN? PM me if you prefer.

Party has always been good at this. Making a lot of fuss when they improve reward plans but keep shut when they alter the rake/points to the negative.

As when they raised their HU rake from 0.5$ cap to 1$ cap... not a word.

Do you know if these rake changes affects 5/10 and above?

With this new reward system (+increased rake at the same time) is party a good option for 3/6 (maybe 5/T) LHE taking game softness+rake into consideration? I'm thinking about moving there some of my roll to have better table selection (I'm playing mainly on Stars now). Until now I didn't play there because I didn't really like their old reward plan.

No affects 5/10 and above.

$1/$2 and $2/$4 are a pretty horrible after this new rake. @ $1/$2 you lose at least 0.50 BB/100 because of this rake change. This 0.50 BB/100 includes the new reward plan.

ouch ty.. can someone confirm this please? this doesn't sound good at all

Why are all the sites picking on the small stakes?

maybe they think we are less likely to realize if they **** us than the high stakes guys, or it costs them less if they lose some of us than losing some of the highstakes guys, or both.

Hey Daiquiri,

Palladium level is easy to achieve but remember that to really takes advantage of this level you have to clear the bonuses that you get rewarded each month, these are usually very time consuming atleast for me (I play 2 tables of 5/10 - 30/60). So having this as your secondary site might not be all that profitable depending on how many hands you put in.

Also I think softness (or lack of it) is the same as Stars and Full Tilt these days. At least at mid stakes.

I agree about the softness. I find there are less good LAGTAGs, but there are still about the same number of fish as anywhere else. There are bots as well.

Party is only worth it if you make pladium elite imo. If you do tho you should be looking at +50% rb. You are guaranteed 40% and with random bonii+promotions you prolly hit 50% fast.

The new 20k bonus for 100k points is pretty effin sweet

How much effort does the Party Elite level take compared to the Stars Elite level, assuming the same stakes?

no where near the same.

~25k hands of +10/20 a month.
~ 33.3k hands of 5/10 a month.

And you just need it on a quarterly basis

anybody knows how many hands were dealt on Party each day at 2-4 and 3-6 6max?

does PTR have this info available?

To: "info@partypoker.com" <info@partypoker.com>
I have been notified today that while your reward system has become somewhat more generous, you quietly increased the rake at the same time. So, for a small stakes LHE player, it means you will give back a little more than earlier, but before you do that, you take away a lot more than earlier. So the bottom line is that in reality I will pay more net rake than before, it only looks as though I was getting back more. Can you confirm this?
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Thank you for contacting Customer Service.

Regarding your query, please note that the rake collected is not increased along with the value of our PartyPoints. Actually there was a change with the amount of raked hands necessary to be played on the micro stakes in order to receive PartyPoints. This brings the micro stakes into line with the rest of the stake levels. We simply made a correction to make it fair for all players at all levels. I am sorry if this has caused any inconvenience. This change has nothing to do with the new loyalty program and was made a couple of moths ago.

You can find more information regarding the rake structure by following the link below:

http://www.partypoker.com/how_to_pla...structure.html

I hope that I have managed to clarify the things for you. If you have any other questions do not hesitate to contact us. We will be more than happy to assist you.

Thank you for choosing us for your online gaming site!

Kind Regards,

Irina

Customer Service

Have Fun and Gamble Responsibly!
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So - did they increase the rake or did they not?

I obv won't be able to make it to Palladium Elite but is Palladium worse than stars SN for a small stakes player? If the difference is not that great I guess party could still be a decent choice as a secondary site for table selection.

It's a small sample, but so far I'm playing 4+BB/100 in rake at Party 1/2. I'll have to play some more though to see how it works out. That's much higher than Stars.

Yes, they did. This lady is talking about PartyPoints change, they did earlier this year at the microstakes.

If you want to get a good answer from Party Poker use $1/$2 and $2/$4 your question not smallstakes, they don't know what smallstakes mean.

Check out this thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...96/index6.html

They also increased jackpot tables rake.

Yes, it's much higher, than Stars.

Party Poker raketable: http://www.partypoker.com/how_to_pla...structure.html

Stakes: $1/$2
Players: 2-10
Rake: $0.05 per $1.00
Max rake: $1.00

PokerStars raketable: http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/rake/

Stakes: $1/$2
Players: 2-10
Rake: $0.25 per $5.00
Max rake: $1.00

Earlier Party Poker started take rake at $2/$4 and $3/$6 when pot reached $15. Now they rake at $2/$4 when pot reach $5 and at $3/$6 when pot reach $10. So they take more rake at $3/$6 too now.

Hopefully somebody can confirm this, because nobody seem to believe me.

Ya, that's a pretty big difference. The rake trap at Party seems much higher. There are so many small pots being raked at Party that wouldn't be raked at Stars. It doesn't seem like Party is a viable option until midstakes. If the games were a lot softer than Stars then it wouldn't be a problem, but I don't think they are.

So it's definitely better to take str8 cash when refunding points then buying the bonus right?

No, it's definitely better to take the bonus as you get twice the amount, ldo.

is there a tool to calc the rake and points earned at party low limit 6 max?

pokertracker

will party **** me up if I take the cashout restricted bonus to flip NL?

But the you have to clear the bonus too and under that time you wont be eligable for reload bonuses!