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Check/call or bet/fold this river? Check/call or bet/fold this river?

07-21-2008 , 11:06 AM
This guy is your typical loose 0.5/1 player. He bets flush draws, chases marginal hands in small pots and slowplays his big hands to the river. What about the turn?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Pre Flop: Hero is SB with Q Q
1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, BTN calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP calls, BTN calls

Flop: (10 SB) Q J 9 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP folds, BTN calls

Turn: (6 BB) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets, BTN calls

River: (8 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero...
07-21-2008 , 11:39 AM
If you ch/call this river, you're losing 100% of the time when a bet goes in. Easy b/f imo, might be a b/c with a T if you think hes capable of bluff raising.
07-21-2008 , 02:48 PM
I'd just **** it and bet.

He obviously doesn't have the Qh or the Th that leaves A,K, and 7-3

He probably doesn't have the A or K because if he did he'd probably have a pair on the flop and imo lots of fish donk or c/r this flop with KJ and if they don't they often donk the turn with their acq. draw. Obviously not 100% but a great deal of the time.

As for the 7h-3h that leaves random As 7h type of hands and 5c 5h type of hands. Since there aren't a ton, and villain probably won't raise the 6h anyways, and he's too smart to fold his 6 6 I'd just say **** it and bet.

After about 15,000 hands of 6max between 1-2 and 3-6 I've basically decided to give up hand reading on the river, ignore all previous actions, and basically valuebet anything on the river that can get called by a worse hand ever.

It's worked pretty well.


I think our biggest concern would be getting bluffraised.
07-21-2008 , 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnsabre
If you ch/call this river, you're losing 100% of the time when a bet goes in. Easy b/f imo, might be a b/c with a T if you think hes capable of bluff raising.
Bet/fold seems logical but I always have a hard time bet/folding in big pots even against loose passive players
07-21-2008 , 03:40 PM
I hate to bet/fold the river but that seems like best option here.

      
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