hey merry...I'm still getting there, worry not

i am going to detox for a little at home, so i wont be going just yet, got a bachelor party there in a month, that's probably when i'll be down at the pool at harrah's

Nah, I don't really feel bad at all. That chat tilt took place at a stud 8 game, and I stand by it. I've always known that shortstacking stud 8 has its advantages. It just ruins the game when there's 8 people at a table and 4 of them are shortstacking. It kinda bugged me to see regulars constantly sitting on shortstacks, when I was a novice player, learning to play this new game at the 30/60 level, and here are these guys who basically play every day, ruining the game by leaving and coming back any time they have more than 6 BB.

Typing/thinking this out, it's striking me that while playing a short stack might help out the gamblers who can just get it all in rather than making a skillful fold... It also probably cuts into the potential BB/100 of the shortstacker. So maybe it's irrational for me to get mad at them. Regardless, I still have a lot of dislike for the Russian shortstackers.


Do I work on chattilting? I can't say I really spend too much time away from the table thinking about potential chat stuff, but I do have plenty of practice. I'm proud to say that it's been years since I told someone I hope they or any of their loved ones get cancer/AIDS. I try to stay a little more fresh and original.


Favorite chat-tilter is spoonce, of course



Thanks Heis. Your progression sure is an interesting one too. I remember how fun it used to be to watch you spew whenever anyone took a suspicious line. Then you calmed down for a while and seemed to eliminate spew from your game almost entirely. Then, you figured out how to restrict it just to good spots, rather than anytime anything looked suspicious. And now, you play high stakes where spewing is totally acceptable/necessary

Obv a very simplified story, but I think it's a fairly accurate timeline.

Ok daiq. I still don't get what you don't get. And I still don't get what you were doing either.

Preflop I raise because I'm on the button and have Ax. I cbet the flop, hoping you'll give up a lot of small card hands. You c/r and I definitely don't love my hand, but the board is so dry and attackable, I'm not folding Ax just yet. Then I turn an ace and you check the turn and river, so I'm certainly going to valuebet because you look like you're scared of the A and just have some kind of pocket pair hand.

Why did you check the turn?

You were BB in this hand with A2o, daiq opened otb with QJs. Your flop play is interesting/(bad?).

wow, I misread that HH every single time I read it. Now I get it.

It's an awkward flop spot. Since the board is so dry, that's a pretty good flop to be c/ring with air, stuff with lots of backdoor draws and no SD-value. It's just as hard for daiq to have hit the flop as it is for me, and there's 5 SB out there after he bets.

Should I c/r it with A2? Well, A2 doesn't really fit the bill of "backdoor draws with no SD-value", so maybe not. But I also feel like if we're c/ring a lot of airballs on this flop, then our c/c ranges are pretty heavily stacked towards unpaired stuff with SD value. Obviously A2 fits that bill, and not only that, it's the absolute bottom of that range. It's tough playing LHE out of position when your hand is easily read.

I just ran the flop spot through stove, giving BTN a 55% range (Though I don't think anyone actually raises J3s OTB and folds 22), and it's 50.2 - 49.8 in favor of the BTN. So c/f is definitely out of the question.

I don't think anyone really feels "comfortable" in this flop spot. It's not an easy one to play. But I'm even money vs his range, a c/c is easily read as the exact hand I have, and against people that don't realize what I'm doing on that flop, I could even get some better hands to fold to a turn bet.

The turn play is very simple and there's no way I'd ever play it any differently. Once you call that flop and the ace rolls off, I'm now either behind and you're never folding, or I have you drawing to 2-4 outs. By c/c'ing, I can hopefully induce some bluffs, and certainly I can lose less when behind. I feel like betting this turn would be very bad.

why not just cr good Ax and cc weak?

Instinctively, I'm feeling that it's better to c/r A2 here than AT. There are fewer really bad RIO spots with AT, and villains may fold better Ax than A2 to a c/r and turn bet.

Your equity goes up to 58% with AT on the flop though, so I dunno, I could be totally off.

How do you recommend working on tilt control and the mental side of the game?

What can I do to try to more effectively put good resolutions into practice (not tilt, think longer about decisions, not auto-pilot, not be results-oriented, etc)?

boc,

most profitable spots against bad players are paired flops.

agree, disagree?

This is a shame to be on page 2. Nice well, boc4life. I'm listen to BOC, right now.

I see a lot of talk on various forums about bots. Do you have any feelings about this? You mentioned that in your world the tight/uncreative players generate income. I assume that most of the lower limit bots are nits. Does that mean you'd look forward to a botter brave enough to put one in your game? Are you concerned that they might be drying up the pool of lower limit heroes that might take shots at your games with money they would have won at lower limits?

Boc, what is more profitable in:
a) heads up lhe
b) 6max lhe
c) full ring lhe

Being able to see everyone's hole cards or knowing ahead of time the 5 cards that will come on the board.

BOC4LIFE TALKS SOME MEAN SMACK AT THE O8 TABLES DON'T LET HIM FOOL YOU

Which moment of your career was the hardest to overcome and why?

Which stakes did take you the most time to beat?

Who is (or who are) the best LHE player(s) in the world in your opinion, and is there any poker player that is your inspiration/role model?

did you go to college?
if you went, what did you enjoy studying?
did you leave college early?

if you went and left early, would you consider going back?
if you never went, would you consider going to college?
if so, what would you want to study? besides titties.

which lobby theme is best when playing Stud8 and which is best when play lhe(3-4 handed only)

Diamonds or spades?

Would you still date a girl if you found out she used 2 color deck?

I HOPE not.

I use a 2 color deck.

Only if I could get it AI with her.

Looks like you're not as sexy as you thought.

SS-

Can't you cajole the former roomy into posting itt?

And btw, how have you been?

Artificial Intelligence is not all it's cracked up to be.

played 10k hands of PLO this week. Too lifetilted to answer well questions right now. How people play that game day in and day out escapes me.

if only someone told u not to do it

Is this you posting on P5s???

http://www.pocketfives.com/f7/congra...-flush-604446/

ok, obv been slacking. I'll knock a few Qs out here quickly before going out drinking, and maybe do some when I come back.

Yeah, I don't think it's totally surprising that winning high stakes LHE players would jump into O8 and be very spewy/LAGgy. In LHE we see top two pair and it's time to jam jam jam. Learning to take things a bit slower and only jam good two-way hands takes a while. Always be scooping. Tough to adapt to.


These questions have been holding me up from this batch of answers. I don't really wanna touch them But I think you're an excellent player, Elo. I'm glad you made the jump into bigger games, and then learned the lesson to pick your spots carefully. I learned those lessons too, but my well-documented poor money management forced me back into the raketrap. Looking forward to playing more high stakes with you soon.

The top 5 guys I definitely don't want to touch. I will say, though, that the guys I've played hu that I felt were the toughest, were Olson, KPR, and Heis.


Most annoying is easy. Abso, quit whining.

Least annoying, also easy. Scorcho = God.


I don't know who that guy is. Or who http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...rch/boc4life13 is.


Screw Wing Fest. Let's go to Wing Bowl next year. I don't even know when it is, but it's gotta be one of those "Do this once in your life" things.


Nahhhh man, didn't feel pressured at all. That trip taught me a lot about how great neutral-EV gambling is. Why play table games when you can neutral-EV gamble with your friends and no one ever really wins or loses? Next time the bottles of Dom will be on you, cuz I've been working on my dice game.

That omaha flip was nasty. We had Mueller ****ed. Do you know if he still walks around Commerce like he's the world's best LHE player? It's been a while since his WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP bracelet win.

I laughed so hard my stomach started cramping. That is one RUDE DUDE!