Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
3/6 MPNK - Standard fold? 3/6 MPNK - Standard fold?

11-04-2008 , 03:44 AM
Can I ever call on this flop? I think once there is a raise, that any value I have is minimal and that folding is the best option. Forgive me if this is painfully standard for some of you.

Full Tilt Poker $3/$6 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 9 2
UTG calls, MP calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks

Flop: (4 SB) 3 9 K (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP raises, SB folds, Hero folds, UTG calls

Turn: (4 BB) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, MP bets, UTG calls

River: (6 BB) J (2 players)
UTG checks, MP bets, UTG calls
11-04-2008 , 06:06 AM
instafold. Small pot probably full of open-limping fish, no draws there so no one would bet OESD or FD or whatever, they bet out a made hand better than yours
11-04-2008 , 06:07 AM
Oh yes, fold it.

Your hand is very weak 4-handed, even for a flop peel after a bet and a call. After a raise you are simply beaten 98,2% of the time (there are no good draws on the flop also) so folding is the only option.
11-04-2008 , 06:50 AM
supereasy instaturbomuckofold
11-04-2008 , 08:15 AM
If you give yourself 5 outs you need 8.2:1 pot odds to continue. Interestingly final pot does get to 8 BB.

I agree that it's a fold but it's closer than many of the above comments imply. For example, had you hit trips, you'd probably have been able to get another couple of bets in the pot which would have made it profitable.
11-04-2008 , 08:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Second Toughest
If you give yourself 5 outs you need 8.2:1 pot odds to continue. Interestingly final pot does get to 8 BB.

I agree that it's a fold but it's closer than many of the above comments imply. For example, had you hit trips, you'd probably have been able to get another couple of bets in the pot which would have made it profitable.

Good point. Say I cold-call instead of folding and the original bettor 3-bets.

Where is the best place to vomit in this situation?
11-04-2008 , 08:42 AM
No its not close.

- You dont have 5 oputs one average. You have 5 outs at best when behind. Sometimes you are drawing close do dead vs 33. Other times you look bad vs K3 and K8 or just better 8x. And finally, if someone has Kx he has a pretty good redraw on you should you catch a turn 3. You more likely have around 3-4 outs on average.

- You are not closing the action. Whenever it gets 3-bet (and capped) you end up sticking in more bets and it also increases the probability that you draw thin.


This is a very very easy fold and its not close at all. Dont kid yourself into thinking that you can call here.

Last edited by Oink; 11-04-2008 at 08:48 AM.

      
m